A call to arms for Barack Obama
Kari Chisholm
Watching Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, and Rick Santorum battle it out for the GOP nomination, I think no one makes the case for Barack Obama's re-election better than this guy:
For eight years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. ...
Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent.
For nearly four years you have had an Administration which instead of twirling its thumbs has rolled up its sleeves. We will keep our sleeves rolled up.
We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace—business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering.
They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.
Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today.
... Here is an amazing paradox! The very employers and politicians and publishers who talk most loudly of class antagonism and the destruction of the American system now undermine that system by this attempt to coerce the votes of the wage earners of this country.
On the jump, the identity of this radical polemicist. :)
Figure it out yet?
This is a campaign speech by President Franklin Roosevelt given just a few days before his 1936 re-election. (The only thing I've edited is the second word - he said "twelve", rather than "eight" years.)
The more things change, the more they stay the same. The full text is here.
Hat tip to Robert Cruickshank, who shared this yesterday in honor of President's Day.
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10:09 p.m.
Feb 21, '12
FDR is the first name that came to mind! Jeez. The more things change....
10:52 p.m.
Feb 21, '12
The freak show of fanatics and extremists with their robber baron corporate funding that we know as the GOP primary process will unify Democrats more than ever. You think W was bad? These guys are total toxin, pure poison, and would bring total ruin to America if any of them every got close to the presidency. They would make Saudi Arabia look like freedom street with their prescription for oppressive govt. control of personal lives. And they would make our paltry safety net look like Somalia.
11:51 p.m.
Feb 21, '12
The analogy to FDR will be more impressive the day Obama speaks out against economic royalists, welcomes their hatred, and removes them from his administration. None of which I expect, unfortunately.
I only hope that Obama doesn't return to his pattern of bargaining against himself and mistaking compromise for a principle to be aimed for as a good in itself, rather than a reality of politics to be struggled with for best advantage for actual principles. If he does return to that pattern, he will defeat himself. Meanwhile I will be focusing on movement building to change the political reality to which Democratic officials respond, with a time horizon aimed at 2021 or so, since unlike FDR the current crop of Democratic leaders apparently is incapable of exercising leadership not only to achieve what is possible but to change what is possible.
Only by changing that political reality will we escape 3 decades of failed Democratic strategy which keeps just enough light between them and the Rs to make a short term difference, but otherwise follows the Rs in a relentless move to the right. When I cast my first presidential vote in 1976, I never imagined that people would be telling me I should count myself lucky to be able to vote for a Democratic candidate who was to the right of Richard Nixon on most issues, lest I get worse. Richard F'ing Nixon! Jeez Louise.
11:29 a.m.
Feb 22, '12
If I remember correctly, speaking about Wall St. banksters, Obama actually referred to them as "savvy businessmen."
1:30 a.m.
Feb 22, '12
How timely! Did you know that just yesterday was the 70th anniversary of FDR's order to round up the Japanese, Italians and Germans in America. No small government could ever have done that! Go progressives!
10:19 a.m.
Feb 22, '12
Yes, FDR sucked on that. I don't think you'll get a lot of argument there.
He also managed to guide the nation through it's most perilous times in our history, with the exception of the Civil War.
Abraham Lincoln was a horrid racist who, while very much against slavery, wanted to cleanse the country of blacks because he believed, "there is a physical difference between the white and black races that will for ever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality." And by cleanse I mean ship black Americans to Liberia, Haiti & Central America..anywhere but US soil.
Yet I doubt you'll hear much argument that Lincoln and FDR are among the nation's greatest presidents.
11:26 a.m.
Feb 22, '12
Here's the key difference between progressives and conservatives like yourself. We have been on the right side of history the vast majority of the time, while you and your ilk have been on the wrong side, over and over and over again. Against worker's rights, women's rights, minority rights, basic environmental protections, etc. The modern GOP...filled with America's racists, bigots, greedy plutocrats, and religious morons, has become one of the ugliest most despicable organization on Earth. Congratulations.
11:43 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
"ilk" is such a great word to stereotype with, don't ya think? ;o). Let's talk about the right side of history, were the progressives on the right side of history when they supported prohibition? How about when they supported the eugenics movement? Were they on the right side of history when they opposed the Republicans that led on the civil rights movement? I can go on, I have a bachelors in history and studied this quite extensively, care to play?
5:55 p.m.
Feb 23, '12
Would I be interested in debating history with BlueO's resident Glenn Beck, i.e., delusional religious moron? Sure...right after I finish shoving needles into my eyeballs.
Keep studying!
11:33 p.m.
Feb 23, '12
You can skip the dramatics. Here I'll even give you a tactic: own the points where the progressives were on the wrong side of history that I've already made and then tell us something about when they were on the right side.
9:27 a.m.
Feb 25, '12
I think Carla Axtman just did
11:53 a.m.
Feb 22, '12
Great men can still have great flaws and still be great.
11:49 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
What was great about Roosevelt? Did you know the Great Depression in America was only a depression everywhere else? There is mounting evidence that suggests that Roosevelt's Keynsian policies were to blame.
1:17 a.m.
Feb 23, '12
Just like Obama, conservatives like to blame the guy for things that happened before he even became president.
You know the depression (great or otherwise) started in October 1929, right? FDR wasn't president until March 4, 1933.
3:11 p.m.
Feb 23, '12
So about FDR. He's still wildly popular.
Overall his base favorability is 62 favorable to 22 unfavorable.
With moderates it's 74-12. With Republicans it's 48-34. With self-described independents it's 57-26. And with some of those who might remember him, ages 65+, it's 63-26.
So, unless one's very, very conservative (and even they only barely disapprove, 37-44), people still love FDR. Even "somewhat" conservative voters approve (48-30).
Data from Public Policy Polling, released 2/15/12. Available here.
11:52 p.m.
Feb 23, '12
Kari, the stock market crashed on October 29, the economy didn't slide into a technical recession until later (two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth) but, that's sort of splitting hairs on my part, I'll grant that, you should however grant that my comment said nothing of when the recession technically started because I wasn't trying to place blame on it's beginning on FDR. I was pointing out that contemporary macroeconomic scholars, with all the benefit of hindsight (that FDR did not have), are asserting that FDR's Keynsian economic policies prolonged what was a garden variety depression everywhere else in the world to a GREAT depression here. Roosevelt did some great things, guiding the country through WWII was great, bit his economic policies hurt the country. Rather than lionizing him for hIs ability to demagogue, we should learn from him, warts and all.
12:13 p.m.
Feb 25, '12
Can you provide citations?
11:54 p.m.
Feb 27, '12
Sure!
Here's one from UCLA: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx
Here's one from the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123353276749137485.html
Here's one from the Ludwig von Mises Institute: http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=258
3:34 p.m.
Feb 28, '12
Well, I've never heard of the latter institute. And the former is from two professors at UCLA.
Anywho, here's a nice article from David Sirota in the other direction and efforts to pile on FDR: http://goo.gl/c2dYz
Regardless, seems like the court of public seems to have FDR's back on this one.
10:14 a.m.
Feb 28, '12
well, Ben, you would know.
3:35 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
In all seriousness, this is the first time that I have seen Kari indicate just how far into the desperate, dark and fascistic future that Barack Obama has taken us. It is truly a milestone. Why? Because it has been four years of Tom Hartmann and other quasi liberal/progressives who have tried to summon the image of FDR.
But the tragic and terrible reality is that there is nothing about Obama that resonates with FDR.
Obama resonates, vibrates, and totally identifies with George W. Bush. Ronald Reagan. The entire neo-liberal mish-mash of supply side economics. And the most totalitarian approach to civil rights and the Constitution in American history.
Oh, I know. Kari is as much in the horse race bull droppings of polictics as Wolf Blitzer. And about as relevant.
4:10 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
With regards to Thom Hartmann's opinon on Obama...I've heard him say, "We thought we we were going to get FDR and we got Bill Clinton."
1:18 a.m.
Feb 23, '12
Thom is a good friend.
But anyone that thought Barack Obama was going to be FDR wasn't paying attention.
4:13 p.m.
Feb 24, '12
I WAS paying attention when I went down to Eugene to see him speak during his first campaign. He and those who introduced him certainly did give me the mistaken impression that he was going to lead the fight to reinstate our freedoms, hold wall street and the corporations accountable for dest5roying our economy, hold the Bush administration accountable for their crimes,etc. Yes, I was paying attention and I thought he would be a leader and a fighter ala FDR. Now I don;t know if he is intimidated or just another neocon in dems clothing.
11:24 a.m.
Feb 25, '12
And Thom Hartmann describes Bill Clinton as having been "a disaster". The beginning of the end of the progressive Democratic Party- the beginning of triangulation. So, if we all agree that that is what Obama is, let us at least do away with the phony enthusiasm and admit that the reason to support him is to stave off the insane GOP.
3:43 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
Ah, the firebagger rhetoric issues forth again. I note that Glenn Greenwald, in the apparent absence of a Ralph Nader candidacy has fallen in love with the perennial white supremacist candidate, Ron Paul. So today we get to hear that President is a fascist, just like W. Next we'll hear the teabagger language of Glen Beck, Gingrich, and Santorum that President Obama is another Stalin and Hitler. The self-marginalization campaign marches on.
8:24 p.m.
Feb 22, '12
One is simply at a loss for words to find a pejorative suitable for an individual that supports the policy of expending one hundred and ten billion dollars to train the Afghans to be an army with no success. And then charaterizes a change in that policy as unilateral disarmament. Funny too in that the individual professes some knowledge of mental health. I would bet that he is certifiable. But a devout end-timer. Tsk Tsk.
8:51 p.m.
Feb 24, '12
@Bill Ryan: Glenn Greenwald is supporting Ron Paul? I'll have to look that up as I can't believe it. Maybe he speaks highly of Paul's foreign policy, but I can't imagine he'd like much else. And, yes, we who will vote for a progressive alternative to Obama will "self-marginalize". That's okay. To quote Bob Dylan, "you just want to be on the side that's winning".
6:06 p.m.
Feb 25, '12
Geoff Ludt is playing his usual game of three card monte. The alignments of the Progressive Era don't track neatly with those of today.
It is true that many Progressive Era self-styled progressives supported eugenics. So did many conservatives. Scientistic racialism (i.e. spurious racial science backed by an ideology that overrated the certainty of scientific knowledge) was promoted by figures like Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard, who were by no means "progressive." Grant's_The Passing of the Great Race_, which apotheosized not just whiteness, but "Nordic" northern European whiteness vs. "Alpines" and "Mediterraneans" (read: Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, Jews and Arabs) and more or less wrote Slavs out of the picture, provided the intellectual underpinning, such as it was, for the deeply racist immigration restriction act of 1924.
The opponents of such thought were primarily progressives or socialists, particularly African-Americans like W. E. B. DuBois and their allies. The really strong attacks intellectual attacks on scientistic racialism led by Franz Boas didn't really emerge until the 1920s. This is the same anthropology responsible for the cultural relativism so despised by today's conservatives.
Who pushes such thinking today? With a very few weird exceptions, like Richard Lewontin, who has been an officer of the American Eugenics Society despite being a Marxist biologist who has publshed sharp and scathing critiques of latter-day scientistic racism, it is conservatives associated with the conservative immigration restriction movement, and with the promotion of ideas of biological "racial" differences in intelligence.
Likewise on Prohibition, yes it was pushed by reformers, some of whom were Progressives. But fundamentally it was an Evangelical Protestant movement, and associated with conservative Protestant anti-Catholicism and the rise of the 2nd Ku Klux Klan. There was overlap with Progressivism -- e.g. Woodrow Wilson showing "Birth of a Nation" in the White House in 1916.
But there's the rub -- many early 20th century Progressive reformers were also evangelicals, or came from such backgrounds, beginning of course with William Jennings Bryan. The changes since then provide plenty of examples that look paradoxical from both directions today.
12:12 p.m.
Feb 28, '12
Thanks for your reply.
I think we can go back and forth like this for a long time, I will start by reiterating the point you made about Progressive Woodrow Wilson showing the "Birth of a Nation" at the White House and how you minimized it ("There was overlap").
What do you make of Margaret Sanger's position on birth control and reducing the black population (eugenics) and how that has developed into today's "Planned Parenthood" and the weird coincidence regarding "Planned Parenthood" locations and black communities?
Or, how about Progressive ICON George Bernard Shaw and his position defending eugenics and mass murder (here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ or, this gem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8lwg-NMWjE&feature=related)?
I can continue and I suspect you can as well ... care to keep playing?
1:05 a.m.
Feb 29, '12
""Planned Parenthood" locations and black communities"
Source, please?