In my opinion, the problem with Politifact (all of them) is that they have a vested interest in something being some shade of "not true." If claims are true, Politifact isn't useful. So they extend their own existence by considering most things not entirely accurate and by choosing things to cover that they can claim to be partly not true.

And,

"The writers of opinions are free to check facts, but the writers of facts are largely prohibited from it. This only makes sense if you consider facts to be opinions, and opinions to be facts, which in turn seems to make the whole point of reporting on either rather pointless"

Thats a great sentiment Kari but if we are going to have this discussion shouldn't we stop lying to ourselves about it. One of the reasons I refuse to support Obama again this time around is because he is such a shameless serial liar. The man just can't tell the truth and unlike politicians who we are quick to excuse by saying "well they all lie" Obama's record is one of a habitual, shameless liar, a man who will say anything to get what he wants.

'How shameful is that for our society when this disgraceful record is never the subject of an editorial in the New York Times, the Washington Post, or CBS news? Richard Nixon was removed from office, and Bill Clinton impeached for a single lie. Who could look at Obama’s record without concluding that his lying is in a completely different league to theirs?

President Obama evidently believes that he can solve any problem with a speech and a lie. But he really does not care whether what he says is true or not, nor does he feel any responsibility to honor the assurances and promises he makes. As a result, this nation is now in a position where it cannot believe a word that he says, and that amounts to an unprecedented crisis of confidence in the Presidency. Democratic government will atrophy if we allow lying on this scale to count as the business as usual of politics.

When politicians lie they are usually trying to avoid political damage, or to make themselves look good. Bill Clinton lied to save himself from embarrassment. Hillary Clinton lied about being under fire in Bosnia to enhance her non-existent foreign affairs profile. Richard Nixon was forced from office because he lied to cover up his involvement in a political dirty trick. John Kerry lied about his Vietnam combat experience to shore up his anti-military reputation. But Barack Obama’s lies are far more corrosive and destructive, because they go the heart of legislation and governance, and as a result seriously undermine our trust in government. His lies generally take a specific form: they attempt to persuade people to vote for him or his policies by categorically assuring them that they need not have the anxieties that they have been expressing. The lies say, essentially: trust me, support what I want, and I promise that what you fear will never happen. But in every case it soon becomes clear either that he knew perfectly well that what the public feared would in fact happen, or that he was giving a firm assurance that he was in no position to give, or that he had no intention of following through on his promise'.

This post was right on target but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that it's always the other guys and not us. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and I for one am sick and tired of every politician who lies whether it's David Wu or Rob Cornilles or anyone else.

I don't mind a tax increase on myself when I know it's needed. Hence my voting "yes" on Measure 66.

thats excactly what this shows. The 99% have no problem raising taxes on the 1% but politifacts statement that a majority of people are against tax increases is probably correct

This is popular right-wing drivel.

The inference being made here is that people wll always vote to raise taxes on "other people" regardless of whether it is right/fair/just. This is of course completely false.

For example, if the GOP controlled house put forth a bill raising taxes on the poor, only Rescumlicans would vote for it.