Tea Party Hissy Fit over Brown Vote
Paul Gronke
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Feb 23, '10
Son, I am disappoint.
Feb 23, '10
Couple this with fundraising issues and it makes any sort of midterm comeback by the GOP questionable. When independents actually start paying attention again they'll probably recognize all this tea bagger crazy as the part of the problem and not the solution. I've been wrong before but I just don't see most of the public voting in spitting kicking and screaming babies that the tea baggers keep putting forth.
Feb 23, '10
Who cares! He's from Massachusetts, not Texas. He's not going to be just the candidate of NO. Give him some time to show us more of who he is. He did the one thing that he was elected to do -- derail government health "care" ...
10:53 a.m.
Feb 23, '10
Ok this one is pretty funny:
David Shumway I had such high hopes for you Scott. Sure, the tax measures were a good start, but how can you vote for all the pork that was thrown in with them? If you had a chocolate cake with a cup of dog crap in the mix, would you eat it? Of course not. In the same way, you shouldn't vote for bills that include spending crap. ...Now is the time to stand up for America and STOP the wasteful spending. Now you have gone and browned yourself.
Feb 23, '10
I guess smiles don't come easily to my face. The measures didn't make me smile. In both I see only one thing; out of state interests controlling local politics. So, we're fighting back. A local group, known as the PTB, has been collecting all the data they can on indivdual TEA protesters for a year, next month. We have people inside 7 fortune 50 companies with dB access. Our mole at FB has already extracted the data associated with everyname that made a pro TEA comment on Brown's page. People that are sending money to out of state contests are being flagged as high priority.
These people are stupid and cannot cope with anything that involves logic. We have IT experts that can and will shut down their electronic lives, using the exact tactics they espouse. What's good for the goose, etc!
This is mild. Real backbone would be letting the military mavens have a taste of justice, as meted out by the hired killers in the US armed forces. Of course, Democrats that say they are against the war but send their kids to fight (allow) are not one bit better.
It takes a sick mind, accustomed to daily buttfucks from DC to find this funny. If you think this is funny, you would ROFLAO at the "congratulations" messages that family members send some of our killers after a "victory". I particularly like the "hero in heaven ones". Al-Qaeda promises paradise after death, but, no, we've outmarketed that with paradisee now (some conditions may apply). How American.
How about you earn your keep and check out a decet FB page, like this one ? It was better when the avatar was a hogie with the bar sinister through it.
11:08 a.m.
Feb 23, '10
@Geoff Ludt:
So you congratulate Brown by saying he was sent to DC to "derail government health 'care' ... "
In the wake of Brown's win you and your Republican friends seem to be feeling your oats and letting it all hang out to the point of now openly supporting ending or "weaning" people off of the biggest government run health care program, Medicare, as well as that socialist jewel in the crown, Social Security. Do you support ending those programs? Just wondering.
11:19 a.m.
Feb 23, '10
WTF: Trolling deleted
I'd give you about a 4/10. You're too way over the top with that "sekret conpiracy" bull. Besides, if you're going to call in the army in your fantasies, wouldn't that be Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
11:20 a.m.
Feb 23, '10
Touch of hyperbole on that post. "3,546 comments of pure rage?" Uh, not if you look at the comments quoted in the blog post itself -- they represent a pretty balanced set of reactions.
Feb 23, '10
Anyone who listened very closely to Scott Brown between election night and swearing in would have heard him say he would evaluate every single bill before deciding how to vote on it.
All those who scoffed at the idea that he won partly because Coakley ran a lousy campaign and this was the second coming of the Bush-era majorities (the same people who quote election results such as Brown but refuse to mention what happened in the NY 23rd when the right wingers drove a more centrist R out of the race and the D won) might want to take a more nuanced view.
Would Brown have won had he said "For the next 2 years I will always vote with either the GOP majority or the views of the TEA Party"?
"Conservatives" (quotation marks because Robt. Taft in the late 1940s-early 1950s, Barry Goldwater, Wm. F. Buckley would not necessarily have recognized current use of the term) are as likely to splinter as to be a unified force this year.
Anyone hear that clip of Chris Wallace interviewing Bill Kristol? Asked what he thought of Ron Paul winning the CPAC straw poll, Kristol said it didn't matter (and some crack that he, Kristol, had been in Republican politics for decades and thus understood them well), "Most of the people at the CPAC convention were under 25, college students, what do they know?" or words to that effect.
Look at the composition of TEA Party rallies. Age as well as other demographics.
Somewhere I read that the young people voting in Mass. were fewer than in Oregon on 66 & 67 because more effort had been done here to increase young voter turnout.
It is one thing to have a mass rally, or comment on Facebook, Twitter, or a blog.
It is quite another thing to go out and actively campaign.
Wanna bet that those who scream the loudest over this did the least actual campaign work? Such things have happened before.
11:50 a.m.
Feb 23, '10
Somewhere I read that the young people voting in Mass. were fewer than in Oregon on 66 & 67.
Indeed - the turnout was just 15% in MA, but twice that in Oregon.
Feb 23, '10
Scott Brown may have been genetically gifted and dumb enough to rock with his cock out in the 1970s, but with two daughters still in college and grandchildren in the foreseeable future, I see Scott Brown turning into the kind of Republican that gets reelected in Massachusetts.
A pure ivory RINO who will vote Democrat where he sees it politically expedient for his electoral future and Republican on less visible, but red dog conservative issues.
Conversely, he fulfills his campaign promise, turns into a straight up teabagger, and ends up upside down on his upper back with his nuts on his chin come 2012.
Either way it is a win-win for Democrats.
Feb 23, '10
Besides, if you're going to call in the army in your fantasies, wouldn't that be Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I'm using the army/navy alphabet that was standard prior to 1956. Sorry to point out the glaring factual error in nearly every WWII movie.
The one you espouse/assume is the CIA's. Yuck. They got NATO to adopt it so it wouldn't be known as the CIA phonetic alphabet.
I'm confused. I thought a conspiracy theory was always, "they", not "we". Deluded ambitions, is what I think you mean. As organized crime and the KKK can tell you, being a "wild myth" can be useful for a surprisingly long period of time! Crazy like a fox WILL meet batshit crazies!
Please explain your passive complacency to me though. I assume that if one of those goons physcially assaulted your child on the way to school, and took their supplies, that you would do something. if you got no response from the authroities, I assume you would intervene yourself, physically. Why does it matter whether they are physically in contact with your child, when the result is exactly the same? Is it "those funny teabaggers assaulted my kid today?" Just WHAT is the difference?
Also, did I miss the Obama administration repealing the Bush doctrine? "These people hate us, and we will not wait for them to destroy our way of life to use deadly force to defend ourselves." That's it, isn't it? Teabaggers love that, teabaggers can live with that! Obama has shown you what conciliation will get you in DC today. Would you eat at a restaurant that served shark fin soup or whale sushi? Why do you patronize businesses run by teabaggers? Teabaggers will do more harm, sooner, to those causes, AND MORE, yet you simply wag your finger at them or laugh.
Feb 23, '10
@Dan Petergorsky
Those programs are going to take care of themselves. According to http://www.usdebtclock.org/ your unfunded liability to pay for Social Security, Medicare, and prescription drug liability is around $348,366 in today's dollars (that means that if you were to pay your total due right now, you'd have to have that much in the bank -- do you? I don't). As a nation, the unfunded liability is $107 trillion, compare that with the total national assets of $75 trillion and you'll see that if, we liquidated the ENTIRE asset base of the US for cash, paid our creditors, we would still be indentured to them for $32 trillion or, 2.29 times our current yearly GNP. We could essentially, lose ownership of EVERYTHING and still have to work our debt off ...
Geoff
Feb 23, '10
@Dan BTW -- I'm a conservative.
2:01 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
Son, I am verb.
2:01 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
Definitely one of those "pass the popcorn" moments. Nice post, Paul.
2:10 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
@Geoff: I don't think you answered the question - you gave figures (which I'm not going to get into here), suggesting you think those programs are doomed.
So - is your position on Medicare and Social Security "end them, don't mend them?" And is that also the position of the Oregon Tea Party? Scrap them?
Feb 23, '10
Chris Dudley runs the risk of appearing to be another Scott Brown; a person the teabagger/republicans/conservative types all view through their tea colored glasses as being 'one of their own,' when that may or may not be the actual case.
Being vague and general about your politics and looking good standing next to a truck may help you get elected but once there you are bound to disappoint the many who filled in the blanks with their own beliefs instead of yours.
2:37 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
By the way - there's another very amusing post up at Kos on the way the Republicans and their corporate backers are shitting on the Tea Party movement: in this case, corporate lobbyists raising money and urging support for PA U.S. Senate candidate Pat Toomey by holding him up as a bulwark against populism.
Of course, for all his attempts to snuggle up to the Tea Party, this is consistent with Toomey's actual record.
Feb 23, '10
I like Scott Brown. He may just end up being a Senator for the People. BUT some of you people are just sick.
3:33 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
Posted by: Kitty C | Feb 23, 2010 3:20:32 PM
Any examples of "BUT some of you people are just sick" you care to share with the class?
Feb 23, '10
@Dan Petergorsky -- Are you crazy? You can't just end those programs, they are promises that need to be honored.
4:05 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
Kitty, I'm with Lestatdelc. What, exactly, does some anonymous blogger who doesn't bother to use her real name think is "sick" behavior from other bloggers? I'm on the edge of my seat. Please, let us know, pretty please.
4:43 p.m.
Feb 23, '10
@Geoff - glad to hear you think it's a crazy idea. So at least you part company with Paul Ryan, Michele Bachmann, Tim Pawlenty et al.
Feb 23, '10
Yep, the "RINO" label will be relentlessly cast at Scott Brown by those who consider themselves conservative purists. Doubt such folks represent a significant portion of Massachusetts voters though.
The so-called tea party movement appears every bit as ridiculous as many of our local street protesters. Ignorant, emotionally-driven fools who have nothing better to do than stage silly tantrums in the streets. "I'm an activist!" Apparently that's now synonymous with self-important moron. In a perfect world we'd be able to watch Palinite's vs. Kucinichite's slaughter each other on pay per view. I'd drink to that.
Feb 23, '10
Ignorant, emotionally-driven fools ... In a perfect world we'd be able to watch Palinite's vs. Kucinichite's slaughter each other on pay per view. I'd drink to that.
I guess the stunning lack of self awareness shouldn't surprise one after seeing Palin equated with Kucinich. Or would you be watching unemotionally?
Feb 24, '10
I'd like to see the various factions of the Right duke it out among themselves for supremacy. You've got your neocons, your family values crowd, your economic conservatives, your big business friendly conservatives, your big military conservatives, your Ron Paul libertarian conservatives, your Sara Palin conservatives, pro-gun conservatives, your Teaparty crowd which is made up of angry people who can't seem to agree on much.
Anger gets the headlines but as far as getting something accomplished? What this may lead to is electoral chaos instead of victory for the republicans in 2010.
Whatever Scott Brown does it's going to piss off some part of his base. The honeymoon is over.
Feb 24, '10
Whatever Scott Brown does it's going to piss off some part of his base.
Not trying to be too nick picky as I agree, but I think the major point in the Brown phenomenon is that they aren't his base. Or are you using "base" apart from "constituents", where his base is now defined as whoever sends in the checks?
Feb 24, '10
Unrepentant Liberal,
Agreed, that would be a hoot with the possible exception of your default anti-business & anti-gun sentiments.
Feb 25, '10
The Tea Party crowd ain't some long lasting movement that will transform US politics. Come 2012, the vast majority of them will be back to voting Republican just like they were before they became discouraged with the Republican label during the 2006 and 2008 elections.
I said it before and will say it again, Tea Party voters are nothing more than Republicans who do not want to be affiliated with the Abramoff Bush Republicans of the 2000s.
So what did this vast right wing conspiracy do?
Not vote in 2006 and/or 2008, re-register as Independent, proclaim themselves as Tea Party voters, and show their true colors as a jumbo of first time uninformed political neophytes, xenophobes, racists, and tax cheats all under one banner, while they wave posters of the President of the United States looking like the Joker from Batman.
Evidence to back up my claim? My own sensory organs and a brain with an intact memory.
We are not debating climate change, we are debating which of our next door neighbors would have voted for Scott Brown, therefore I do not need a PhD next to my name and hundreds of links to "studies."
Feb 26, '10
Posted by: Carla Axtman | Feb 23, 2010 2:01:45 PM
Definitely one of those "pass the popcorn" moments. Nice post, Paul.
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