No slacks, no speech at country club for Kitzhaber?
Karol Collymore
Fashion is subjective.
What is dressed up to some is downright inappropriate for others. Living in Oregon, we embrace business casual with abandon and love clothes that can go from the office to the mountain. Let's face it: when it rains as much as it does here, it's hard to bring the pretty everyday.
I personally never thought I'd see the day I called a rain jacket "stylish" and, well, that day came last year at the Nau 50% off sale. For the most part, it works for our state.
Actually, it works unless we want to enter the Lake Oswego Country Club. From The Oregonian:
Kitzhaber, who is running for his old seat, is scheduled to appear Feb. 10 at a Democratic forum at the country club with primary-race rival Bill Bradbury. That prompted the club's board of trustees to discuss what to do if Kitzhaber shows up in jeans. The conclusion: the no-denim dress code stands. "We are a traditional country club and we do have a dress code that follows these traditions," said Dennis Yamnitsky, the general manager. He said the club would be "discreet" if Kitzhaber shows up in blue jeans. For example, he said, the club has spare slacks it could lend the ex-governor.
Ahem. Borrowed slacks? Heavens no! I say let the man wear his signature style!
As much as Michelle Obama loves belts and cardigans, former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown loves a bright tie and scarf, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has a pantsuit rainbow, the mustachioed one loves denim.
Let's take a stylish look back, shall we?
What say you? Signature style or borrowed slacks?
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10:27 a.m.
Jan 25, '10
I am sure he owns some slacks and will wear them on that day. This is the biggest non-story I have every seen. I really hope no one wastes the candidate's time with a question about this.
10:36 a.m.
Jan 25, '10
As a matter of courtesy to the host of your event, notwithstanding the fact that this seems increasingly quaint today, you set aside your jeans for the period of time you are in attendance at the event and wear the attire that complies with the rules. I've been to a restaurant once in my life (on the east coast) that required people dining there to have a jacket, and I wore one.
10:39 a.m.
Jan 25, '10
In fairness, I believe Kitzhaber has already said that's what he intends to do and that he always respects the dress code when he is a guest.
This really is a non-story.
10:58 a.m.
Jan 25, '10
Sense of humor, folks. Have a little fun on a Monday, will ya?
Jan 25, '10
Kitz should rock the most formal suit he owns with the biggest belt buckle that he's got. That'd be a statement.
11:34 a.m.
Jan 25, '10
The meta on this is far more interesting. Kudos to the Kitzhaber press shop for placing this story on the front page, not to mention keeping it alive for so long after its reasonable expiration date.
Jan 25, '10
They're a private club, they can do what they like. A lot of cricket clubs still require jackets during test matches.
The question is, why is a public candidate making an appearance at a private club? If it's as an invited speaker, then apply the rules the same as if they had invited Jimmy Dean. But no press coverage. If they're inviting in the press, then they're benefiting by his presence, and they have no say.
So, imho, they have to choose. Which way is it?
Jan 25, '10
C'mon, lighten up. Not like there is an election tomorrow.
Jan 25, '10
Tip of that hat to Karol for posting this oddball story to assuage our collective case of the Mondays. Wag of the finger to the Debbie Downers for raining on her parade.
It's obvious that Kitzhaber has only one true path to follow here. It's exactly the path that every NBA star who got pissed off a few years back when Commissioner David Stern instituted a mandatory (racist, elitist, etc.) dress code for all players. Kitz should go out and find the loudest, gaudiest, most obnoxious pair of plaid golf trousers that money can buy and proudly strut right onto stage. What better way to subvert an antiquated and equally obnoxious policy and follow it all at once, all the while diffusing the situation with wit and splendor? Done and done.
Jan 25, '10
Z's question is the right one. Darth, baby, election season was ON as soon as he became known as a renewed contender.
Jan 25, '10
The stupidity of this story is truly remarkable. As a blog post from Karol? Sure, fine it's the internet. But as a front page story for the Oregonian? What? Pathetic.
1:28 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
I still think the real question is why is he showing up at a private country club? Is the public invited? If not why is he there?
1:29 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
I still think the real question is why is he showing up at a private country club? Is the public invited? If not why is he there?
Jan 25, '10
Campaign forums happen at all kinds of places. In the fall of 1994 there was a local Rotary campaign forum for Rotary members only. I convinced a friend of mine who belonged to Rotary to go. Fascinating report---that his impression was Denny Smith was slick and Kitzhaber had enough substance my friend took notes.
About the topic at hand, Jack and leinad | Jan 25, 2010 10:27:15 AM are correct.
This sort of thing came up in 1994.
Non-story.
Jan 25, '10
Thanks for the pics. The links weren't working when I looked earlier. Agreed, it is a pitiful O story, but you've definitely brightened it up! Don't particularly like the sex offender thing he has going there in the athletic pose.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has a pantsuit rainbow,
But, has no one ever explained to her about polyester? Some of her outfits cause me to flash to Indian and Pakistani commercials for full body colognes. It's gross and distracting. When the SOS is delivering a foreign policy update, I don't want to be thinking about where she's sweating.
Willie's tie would be fun, if he didn't have to add "it's good to be the king". Shows all politics is local. I didn't like him as Mayor, but would really like to see him replace Feinstein.
What's odd about political fashion, to my mind, is the way that back in the day, clothes were confined to a pretty narrow range, but hair was all over the place. Now, it's the other way around. Trying running for G today with a mullet! I always thought his campaign missed a trick with that. He could have said, "I may be a cowboy, but I'm not a redneck, thanks to my mullet"!
2:41 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
Zara and John-- It's the monthly meeting of the Willamette Women Democrats. They've invited both Bradbury and Kitzhaber to appear together.
Jan 25, '10
Good show Kari - the questions SHOULD be asked, and you gave us the answer. The race is on.
Jan 25, '10
Unless, of course, he is out stumping for Archimedes. No indication as to whether he is doing a Gov Gig or his Healthcare Maven turn.
3:25 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
Since the Clack Dems have started having the Roosevelt Dinner at the OLCC, we've had more than a few dress code stumbles.
Club reps are pretty good natured about the whole thing and don't actually toss people out in the middle of an event, although I've suffered through precise instructions in etiquette from a female member which I put up with out of respect for my wife.
Bottom Line? What's the use of paying out all that money to an exclusive club if you're not going to exclude.
<hr/>Most recent Dem miscreant?
Kurt Schrader.
Jan 25, '10
Hey Karol, You are a dumbass. You called the majority of the electorate idiots in your rant on Willamette Week. Kitzhaber is a piece of crap that should be relegated to the scrap heap. I don't care if he wears jeans or a speedo. His time is past. And so is yours, by the way. If you had aspirations of running for office, you might as well ditch them now. The blue tsunami is a thing of the past. Look for a red tide come November.
By the way, I have lived in Portland all my life. Where did you come from?
4:02 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
The blue tsunami is a thing of the past. Look for a red tide come November.
So-o-o-o-o are you too embarassed to use your name because of your inability to express your thoughts without villifying everyone who disagrees with you; or is it because you won't have to ever, ever face up to any wild preditions you might make?
Itsa Poser........
Jan 25, '10
While "anon" kinda sounds like a dumbass, I have to agree that Karol's WW rant was pretty offensive.
Pat--if you don't like villification, I suggest you read the WW piece--she calls Obama critics "assholes".
But for me the most ridiculous part was when she listed Obama's achievements: "Besides killing pirates and designing a stimulus package that prevented us from going into a depression, and Afghanistan, and Cash for Clunkers and keeping people from getting kicked out of their houses?"
Afghanistan?!? Keeping people from getting kicked out of their houses?!?
Seems like Karol is too blinded from her Obama tears to see that Afghanistan puts most of the president's progressive agenda in jeopardy and that lots of people are still getting kicked out of their homes, with very few people (some say only 2%) able to renegotiate their mortgages.
But don't mind me, I'm just an asshole.
4:25 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
Look Chris #12, I didn't say Obama critics were "assholes" I said, "The people who say he’s done nothing are just being assholes." You seemed to get the rest right...
I had a conversation with a reporter and many didn't agree. I celebrate public discourse and was happy to participate in it. I feel passionate about Barack Obama and felt it during my conversation, but don't misquote me.
Jan 25, '10
So, anon, who are you supporting for Gov?
Or would you rather insult than make an affirmative statement?
Jan 25, '10
If that's a mis-quote, I apologize. I'm not sure it is, though. Either way, I think what you said was dumb.
I wouldn't say he's done nothing, just nothing very good. He has escalated the war in Afghanistan, just like he promised. He's also screwed up the health care thing real good. And last week, he promised to help Haiti, but aid delivery is being hampered by US troops. Like I said, nothing very good.
This seems like a defining moment for him. Does he continue on the same path, leading to the red tide that anon and I agree is likely, or does he tack back to the populist that many of us hoped he would be, and ditch Rahm, Geithner, Summers, Gates and most of the rest of his team?
A much more eloquent take on this is from William Greider in the Oregonian yesterday.
5:16 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
I think it's pretty rude to invite someone as an honored guest, but then say "Oh, but only if you're dressed the way we like." if your pants are more important than your presence--to the point where it's a dealbreaker--I contend the invite was wholly insincere.
But really, Orangeonian--newsday THAT slow?
5:21 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
And just from reading the headline, I thought Kitz showed up in boxers, waved at the crowd...and left. ;)
Jan 25, '10
Hey Pat Ryan... Fuck you. Hey Karol, Fuck you too, You self righteous egotisitcal elitists are going down... and I am going to have fun watching.
You frigging dems are out come November 1010. And it will be fun to watch. Twinkie eating fat ass Kari, Better tha thou Karla and all the rest of you. You are going to go the way of Air America. By Bye.
5:58 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
For some people there are no ideas, only winning and losing. When they're not getting that nice jolt of testosterone they get from beating someone else, they got nothin'.
Jan 25, '10
Slightly off topic - Does Bill Bradbury get to drive in on his Segway?
8:14 p.m.
Jan 25, '10
Anon,
Real life has a tendency to throw us curve balls. If you have a crystal ball on November's election results, good on ya mate! You already knew that you were smarter than the rest of us - now you can prove it.
Bottle it and sell it when the time comes.
Jan 25, '10
You tell me what looks stupider - Kitzhaber in slacks or pretending to be a cowboy?
A little old for that game isn't he, unless he goes to cocktail parties in Bend where they believe that kind of stuff.
Jan 26, '10
Keep up the good work, Your article is really great and I’m always looking for better ways to get my websites.
Jan 26, '10
Lake Oswego Country Club should read Oswego Lake Country Club. I wonder if Chris Dudley is a member?
Jan 26, '10
A decision to expand the Oregon Health Plan shortly before Kitzhaber left office, led to serious funding problems and eventually a drastic reduction in the number of enrollees in the program, a study published by the Commonwealth Fund found.
Today, Kitzhaber, 62, who is again running for governor in 2010, is still promoting unorthodox strategies to address U.S. health care problems.
<hr/>Andy
Jan 26, '10
Does this blog have mangement? On Saturday, "anon" thieved the identity of an up-and-coming Oregon pol for his ID and was called out for it. Management did nothing. On Friday his comment about Kari, adipose tissue and twinkies was deleted, because it was about Kari. What the hell kind of blog would allow him to continue on saying "fuck you" to everyone that responds to him?
Kari claimed, on the Portland Mercury blog site in December, that Blueoregon was getting a makeover and dealing with spam, jerks, etc. I wrote php code that runs an entire blog, same functionality, yesterday. It took me 4 hours. How many months does it take for you to manage this as well as my kids' just-for-grins blog? Those ads are pretty pricey (and the Google ones offensive). Where does the money go? Have you been firing people up on the measures, so that "no" voters read, and you can turn their clicks into cash for the "yes" campaign? How about calling out THAT deceptive practice!
Jan 26, '10
Oh, and either tell anon he's a liar about knowing you personally, Kari, or we'll take it that you approve of his conduct. I know exactly who he is. He's another gen X male, waste of humanity, as most of them are.
Jan 26, '10
I think everyone should lighten up a little .. it is a joke.
Jan 26, '10
Please, folks, take it easy on anon. He [she, it] is a very angry person who is driven to express his rage and little else. Most likely, anon is the victim of childhood abuse who has not received the care needed to help him reconstruct his humanity. Let's hope he has no offspring who would likely get caught up in the cycle of abuse that can go on for generations.
1:58 p.m.
Jan 26, '10
"You frigging dems are out come November 1010."
Are those the Sioux Dems, or maybe the Cherokee or even the Ogalala? Cause they were the only ones here then.
(here = US, not Oregon)
Jan 26, '10
Correct me if I mis-speak, but in 1010 the Ogalala/Sioux would have been a small forest-living tribe from the mid-west. Seems more likely that the Iroquois Confederation, or, as you say, the Cherokee, would have been the political animals.
It was probably a Freudian slip. Most conservatives would like to see this country's infrastructure as it existed in 1010. Anything past that is too "modern".
Jan 26, '10
Most likely, anon is the victim of childhood abuse
Neglect, more likely. His inability to verbalize beyond a snarl seems pretty similar to "biters" in grade/pre school. Unable to compete linguistically, they use their mouth to interact socially in a more primitive way.
Jan 26, '10
That's Tsa-la-gi to you, white fellas. And then, only because we deign to transliterate!
Jan 26, '10
And, I kinda think they was dakoda/lakota/nakoda NATION. :)
Jan 26, '10
LT, do you know why the ladies picked the country club venue? If they're just using the space, shouldn't they be making the rules?
<img src="http://www.ipl.org/div/hello/images/osiyo.gif">, rw!
Actually, I changed "nation", as they seemed pretty small at the time without much of an identity to differentiate from the Fox and such.
But why I responded is that you piqued my curiosity. Oops. I was going to say "I thought only the Cherokees had a written alphabet". Glad I googled first. Should have known. Being born in NC, I didn't sleep in a bed that wasn't made by the Tsa-la-gi until I was 16.
At least with Oregon being more influenced by the British, a lot of natives' names didn't get changed, to the chagrin of BBC announcers trying to read out comments from WA and OR residents during the cricket. Mt. Hood and the battleship were named for the same guy . Hope the mount doesn't go the way of the battleship. Soon.
Jan 26, '10
They were always Nation, The People, dear. They have always been proud this way. :)....
<h2>Oooooo si yoooo yerself Zary-You-Strah.</h2>