Hass: I'm not running for Governor. Quityeraskin.
Carla Axtman
This morning on KPOJ, Oregon Senator Mark Hass (D-Beaverton) made it clear that he's not got Mahonia on his mind:
I've been hearing this ever since I used to be at the TV station, a hundred years ago, before I even got into my first term in the House. I've never been running for Governor. I have two very important jobs right now: that is to be the best dad I can possibly be and to be the hardest working guy in the Oregon Legislature. And those are pretty consuming. Those are the jobs I'm focusing on. No, I'm not running for Governor.
You can listen to Senator Hass' interview with Carl Wolfson here. (It's a little more than halfway through the audio)
Another one bites the dust.
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Jul 15, '09
So when do we hear from Kitzhaber? Isn't time he clears the air?
And any truth to the rumors that Merkley is trying to get Novick out of the way with a job at the EPA and sending one of his folks to run Brian Clem's campaign?
11:02 a.m.
Jul 15, '09
I'd love to hear from Kitzhaber on this. That'd be awesome.
On the Novick thing, I was under the impression that Steve took a job with Defend Oregon, choosing himself not to run with the belief that Kitzhaber is going to pull the trigger. However, if Merkley is pushing to get Novick a job at the EPA..that'd be AWESOME (this is the first I've heard of that rumor). Novick would be kick ass there.
Jul 15, '09
(this is the first I've heard of that rumor)
Kari Chisolm posted on Novick just last week ("2010 -- Novick is out" -or something like that...), and included that bit from Willamette Week about EPA job (or maybe you had to follow the link to WW...?).
Kinda sounds like maybe Merkley has a horse in the race with Clem -- and some Merkley staffers may be headed that way.
Clem told WWeek in that same murmur that he thought Kitzhaber would wait till after Labor Day to decide...imo, that's unfair to Clem and other potential candidates, and Kitzhaber needs to come out. Otherwise, you get the feeling Kitzhaber is about himself first, and just says whatever to other Dems.
Jul 15, '09
Not accepting comments?
Jul 15, '09
does this work?
Jul 15, '09
Sorry about that.
Jul 15, '09
Is there a mass exodus of Merkley staff jumping ship to join up with Clem? That'd be news. Hard to believe Merkley would be "sending" them himself though as Russell suggests.
Jul 15, '09
"Sending" or "going with his blessing" -- either way, sounds like news. Merkley was the minority leader following 2005 session, and targeted seats in 2006. Clem was one Dem pickup that made Merkley the Speaker of the House in 2007. There's a relationship there.
Or maybe Clem is just offering big bucks for staff with his $500,000, and Merkley's staff is a logical place to go after the 2008 election.
Kitzhaber should wake up -- come September Clem may have a well-oiled machine in place and plenty of bucks.
2:11 p.m.
Jul 15, '09
"Sending" or "going with his blessing" -- either way, sounds like news. Merkley was the minority leader following 2005 session, and targeted seats in 2006. Clem was one Dem pickup that made Merkley the Speaker of the House in 2007. There's a relationship there.
I'm sorry..what's the point here, exactly?
Some of Merkley's people might work for Clem..? So what? Some of Merkley's people might work for Hass, too. Or maybe they'll work for Novick. Oregon's a small politics place. I'm missing the relevancy.
The WW story referenced in comments earlier has no link between Merkley and getting an EPA job for Novick. Frankly, if Merkley were doing that..it'd be a service to the country. Novick would be superb in that job. But that's creating an inference where no facts appear to live.
But back to the point of the post, which is Mark Hass. If we could get back on topic, I'd appreciate it.
2:32 p.m.
Jul 15, '09
Just to close the loop on the Novick EPA thing: Yes, Senators Merkley and Wyden asked the President to consider Steve Novick for the post. From an earlier WW murmur:
As for the Brian Clem not-quite-campaign: If he gets endorsed by Senator Merkley, that'll be big news - and you'll hear about it on BlueOregon. I can tell you that nothing of the sort has happened yet. Brian's not even running for anything yet; just traveling the state talking to Oregonians about the possibility of running for Governor.
Now, back on topic, please.
[Full disclosure: My firm built the campaign websites for Mark Hass, Ron Wyden, Jeff Merkley, and Brian Clem. I speak only for myself.]
Jul 15, '09
Looks like I got the wrong murmur, Carla, but the inference was based on facts, as Kari demonstrates.
On the topic. Hass is not running. What else is there to say?
Looks like Clem is running, and may be hiring Merkley's campaign manager. You're telling me that's not relevant? What the heck is Blue Oregon for?
There's some vigilance here in rooting out financial statements of Sid Leiken and the like, which is great. But when it comes to candidates you may have sympathies for -- and in Kari's case, candidates you have financial ties to -- one wonders if you're just blowing smoke.
3:10 p.m.
Jul 15, '09
Looks like Clem is running, and may be hiring Merkley's campaign manager. You're telling me that's not relevant? What the heck is Blue Oregon for?
There's a whole other post about Clem you can post comments on.
Clem might be hiring the guy who ran Merkley's campaign? So..? Clem might hire someone else too. He might run the Boston Marathon while drinking Yoo-Hoos, for all we know.
IF he hires Isaacs, maybe then it would be newsworthy. But it sure seems like you're trying to use it to create nefarious intent on the part of Merkley..and that's where stuff doesn't add up.
You're essentially claiming that Merkley is trying to get Novick out of the way so Clem can run for Gov, then stuff Clem's campaign with his own people. There's no evidence that this is happening.
And frankly, I have a tough time believing that if Novick wants to run for Governor--he'd accept a job in DC with the EPA. I suspect that Merkley and Wyden recommended him because he'd kick ass at it. And why would Wyden be incahoots with trying to get Novick out of the way for Clem...? Makes no sense.
Jul 15, '09
I wouldn't say "nefarious intent" at all. Just good old politics. A U.S. Senator may have some feelings about who he'd like to work with as governor, and who he wouldn't. No one's ever lined up a decent job for a competitive officeseeker before, to keep them at bay?
The GOP stuck Teddy Roosevelt in the VP slot to sideline him, though it backfired when McKinley was shot. And I think Harry Truman was happy to keep MacArthur occupied in Japan after the war. This is an old story.
But set that aside completely, and say Merkley is entirely disinterested.
Still, a young state rep with $500,000 from his mother-in-law looks to be snapping up top notch campaign staff to run for governor. The last time anyone's gone from being a state rep to governor was in 1947, when the governor, Earl Snell, and the secretary of state and the president of the state senate were all killed in the same plane crash. In other words, it just doesn't happen everyday.
So it looks a little newsworthy to me to see what Clem does with his money, and a little newsworthy when staffers at a U.S. Senator's office start exiting. I should think a journalist would take notice.
And I thought Blue Oregon's reason for being was to track such developments. Are you journalists, or bloggers, or what?
3:58 p.m.
Jul 15, '09
I wouldn't say "nefarious intent" at all. Just good old politics.
A distinction, based on your tone, without a difference.
And I thought Blue Oregon's reason for being was to track such developments. Are you journalists, or bloggers, or what?
There's not a "development" to track. That's my point.
So what's your take on Hass not running?
4:10 p.m.
Jul 15, '09
While its always flattering to be included in rumors of political conspiracies and intrigue....
My choice to leave a great job with Senator Merkley is mine and mine alone. As I've said to several people, I'm resigning from the Merkley team to take some time off. I don't have any immediate professional plans. Anyone who knows me well will tell you that I have been considering this since the 2008 campaign came to an end. I don't expect to be back in the working world until some time this fall.
There are days where I feel like an idiot for leaving a great job working for an amazing leader, but for once I've decided to put my family and my emotional/mental health ahead of my career.
Jul 15, '09
You should be flattered, Mr. Isaacs, and thanks for getting rid of Gordon Smith.
But perhaps you should be concerned when a reliable and believable staffer for Senator Merkley announces to their friends that they are going with you to work for Brian Clem.
Good luck on the campaign.
(And those are nice photos Carla just posted of Brian Clem and his baby girl on another thread in the last hour...)
Jul 15, '09
I am glad to hear it.
Jul 16, '09
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12:58 a.m.
Jul 16, '09
I should think a journalist would take notice.
If so, why don't you go bother some journalists? Because around here, we're all activists.
From time to time, some of us might commit a rare act of journalism, but that doesn't make us journalists.
Jul 16, '09
"don't expect to be back in the working world until some time this fall.
There are days where I feel like an idiot for leaving a great job working for an amazing leader, but for once I've decided to put my family and my emotional/mental health ahead of my career. "
It sounds to me like Jon has common sense. Politics and family life often don't mix.
Russell, did he say he was working on anyone's campaign?
Jul 16, '09
I wish Mark Hass great success at being "the best dad I can possibly be" because has a long, long, long way to go before he will ever be "the hardest working guy in the Oregon Legislature."
Disengaged, yes. Unrealistic, yes. Sporatic, yes.
But hardest working, no.
Jul 16, '09
Well, it's a glorious morning out there, maybe time for a clean start?
Thanks Kari, for being honest -- you and Carla are activists, not journalists -- kind of proved that yesterday.
So, when you acknowledge that you are activists, the question that follows is, activists for what? Issues or candidates?
Carla wrote voluminously over the last several months about the Metolius River Basin. I admire her work greatly. Her efforts to keep that issue on the front burner and preserve and protect the Metolius rank right up there with Matt Kramer in Oregon history. There's a plaque in Oswald West State Park commemorating Matt Kramer's work as an associated press reporter -- for his work pushing the Beach Bill in 1967. In my opinion, there ought to be a similar plaque for Carla placed in some quiet, beautiful spot in the Metolius River Basin. My father took me there when I was a kid, long before man walked on the moon, and said "this place should stay this way." So thanks, Carla.
I'm okay with you guys being activists for your issues. But the troubling question is when does that activism crossover to activism for a candidate, and if it does, will any other candidates get a fair shake here at Blue Oregon?
One name associated with the Metolius issue was Brian Clem. Governor Kulongoski signed the bill yesterday, and Carla posted four photos. None of the Metolius by itself. Kulongoski is in a couple of shots. Brian Clem is in all four photos posted.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that Carla is a big fan of Brian Clem. She posted a profile of Clem back in late March -- a pretty flattering profile. (Note, however, that that post only generated 3 comments -- guess folks are much more interested in Clem now that his mother-in-law gave him $500,000.)
And Kari -- well, we know that some of Asuza Suzuki's money has already found its way to you -- you built Clem's website.
Blue Oregon is -- as far as I can see -- the most influential blogsite about Democrats in Oregon. And you guys, Carla and Kari, post more content here than anyone else -- this is your baby.
I just think it would be fair and honest of you both to declare your sympathies up front and let the readership of Blue Oregon know you're supporting a candidate for governor.
If two of the most influential bloggers and activists at the most influential blogsite in Oregon about Democrats are supporting Brian Clem for governor, folks ought to know that, right?
And I think it's inevitable that folks will wonder if your sympathies for Clem will affect your activities here. Like, maybe you're sitting on some info that in other circumstances you'd pursue and post to feed the water cooler here at Blue Oregon.
You completely pooh poohed the story yesterday that one of the state's best campaign managers looks to be on his way to Clem's campaign. You both appear to be pretty tight with Mr. Isaacs.
And you pooh poohed the story about Novick and the EPA job.
But you're just too smart for this. Anybody watching last year could surmise that Mr. Isaacs was probably a little steamed to have to shoot his wad in the primary against Novick, and wind up in late May out of money to face Gordon Smith. It's perfectly sensible for him to urge Merkley to forward Novick's name for an EPA job. He doesn't want a repeat. He'd like to get Clem through the primary without shooting his wad, and be ready for the Republican.
(And it would be perfectly sensible for Steve Novick, assessing the situation -- an opponent with way more money than he can raise, Merkley's campaign manager, and two key Blue Oregon bloggers against him -- to take the plum.)
We've had recent surveys from Willamette Week on our legislators, and The Mercury on our lobbyists. There's no survey out there on our bloggers -- but I think you both would score quite high on brains and effectiveness.
How you score on integrity -- I'm not sure.
But writing "why don't you go bother some journalists" doesn't score well in my book.
And, honestly, you guys blew more smoke yesterday than a Republican officeholder trying to hide a paid mistress.
Are you guys for Clem, or what?
10:52 a.m.
Jul 16, '09
So, when you acknowledge that you are activists, the question that follows is, activists for what? Issues or candidates?
I'm presuming you're asking me. My answer is: the ones that I decide are worth my activism.
I appreciate your kind words on my Metolius work. I don't think I rise to the level of plaque-dom, but the sentiment is nice.
But the troubling question is when does that activism crossover to activism for a candidate, and if it does, will any other candidates get a fair shake here at Blue Oregon?
Why is it a troubling question? And why do I have to give everyone a "fair shake"? I write what interests me. I do activism for the issues/people I think are worth doing. I don't claim to be objective. I don't claim to work from a platform of complete equity.
What I do is research and write about the issues and people that interest me and inspire me.
I just think it would be fair and honest of you both to declare your sympathies up front and let the readership of Blue Oregon know you're supporting a candidate for governor.
You assume that I have a sympathy for a candidate. There's your first mistake. You can put that in the long line of other assumption mistakes you've made in this thread.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that Carla is a big fan of Brian Clem. She posted a profile of Clem back in late March -- a pretty flattering profile.
I didn't post a profile of Clem. I posted a profile of Clem's House district. I did the same for the House districts of Jefferson Smith and David Edwards. I hope to do them for more districts as the opportunity arises.
And I think it's inevitable that folks will wonder if your sympathies for Clem will affect your activities here. Like, maybe you're sitting on some info that in other circumstances you'd pursue and post to feed the water cooler here at Blue Oregon.
That's the problem of the wonderers, not me. I honestly could care less.
You completely pooh poohed the story yesterday that one of the state's best campaign managers looks to be on his way to Clem's campaign. You both appear to be pretty tight with Mr. Isaacs.
That's because there isn't any evidence that Isaacs is on his way to Clem's campaign. If you've got it (other than the stuff you're pulling outta yer backside) then post it. I'm not interested in fluffing up your rumor mill. It's a waste of my time.
Jul 16, '09
Your profile of HD 21 begins with "Brian Clem is a busy guy" and ends with "I asked Clem to take me to the place in this area where he'd most like to have me take his photo," followed by a quote from Clem. You have to read an awful lot of paragraphs to find one without Clem.
You say that you write about issues and people that interest and inspire you.
The Metolius was an issue that clearly interested you, and Clem is a person whose efforts no doubt inspired you.
Clem is also a candidate, yet you want folks to believe you have no sympathies for his candidacy?
I just don't think that's believable.
(I expect, after he vacations in August, that Mr. Isaacs will be announced as Clem's campaign manager -- perhaps we can talk about my backside then?)
1:12 p.m.
Jul 16, '09
Russell: You're clearly operating under the delusion that it matters to me what you think is possible or not.
My House district profiles on Jefferson Smith and David Edwards have lots of paragraphs that include their names too. When you interview the Rep. about the House district they represent, that's the way it works.
Even if I were completely in the bag for Clem, that's up to me. I write about what interests and inspires me. If you're worried about getting an unbiased POV, then a blog that is very open about having a progressive point of view isn't probably your best bet.
Jul 16, '09
No delusions here. Perhaps you don't have to care about what others think.
But if I were in your shoes, I might be a little worried that in the future, when Brian Clem's candidacy comes up on Blue Oregon, as no doubt it will, how you appear to your readership, and what they'll think. They're going to wonder if you're an independent blogger on a progressive blog, or an activist for Clem.
If you're not up front about your sympathies, your audience may lose faith in what you're putting out. Seems to me your forthrightness in this community is a valuable asset, but if you lose that, by not shooting straight with folks, your value goes down.
1:52 p.m.
Jul 16, '09
People are free to ponder their wonders. How my efforts are interpreted is up to those who choose to interpret them.
If that causes a "loss of faith", then it does. I see nothing compelling in writing for the sake of making other people comfortable with my positions or biases (or lack thereof).
That this somehow suggests a lack of forthrightness is both wrong-headed and silly. I'm quite clear about what inspires and motivates me by virtue of what I choose to write about. If my work is unsatisfying to another's sensibilities, then they should do that which satisfies them and disregard me.
2:10 p.m.
Jul 16, '09
Russell, you must be new around here. Because you're asking a whole lot of questions that have been asked before, and throwing around accusations that have been made before.
I don't much care to rehash old discussions. Do the Google if you care. Try "rigged game" and "ethical blogging" if you're interested in how these conversations have evolved over the years.
To recap:
I'm not a journalist. I explicitly say that, here on this blog and to actual journalists, all the time. I have never claimed otherwise.
BlueOregon is a labor of love. If you want to pay us editors a full-time salary to run it, I'm sure we'll happily quit our day jobs.
My day job is to work with political candidates and nonprofit organizations on their websites. Yes, that creates all sorts of difficult situations. For a while there, it looked like a half-dozen current and former clients were planning to run for Governor. The only two people who are actively exploring the race now - Brian Clem and Bill Bradbury - are both good friends and current/former clients.
Part of my day job includes helping my clients with their various strategies. Naturally, that includes confidential information. If you're coming here with an expectation that I'm going to blog about their not-yet-public plans or strategies, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
I am not a journalist. I am not neutral. I actively promote those issues, candidates, and causes that I care about. I am, however, entirely transparent about my affiliations. The only reason that you know about my affiliations and can make up conspiracy theories about them is that I always disclose who I'm working with - both in context here, and on my company's website.
If you don't like it, don't read it. If you don't think I'm credible, then don't waste your time. Move on. There are plenty of web pages on the internet. Better yet, start your own blog. And then we can make up stories about you!
Jul 16, '09
"Part of my day job includes helping my clients with their various strategies. Naturally, that includes confidential information."
"I am not a journalist. I am not neutral. I actively promote those issues, candidates, and causes that I care about."
So, you're not neutral, you actively promote candidates, you have clients who are candidates (as you do now with Brian Clem...), you help those clients with their strategies, and that includes confidential information.
I think I get the picture.
So, if you know how Clem is spending his money, who he might be hiring, and what his strategy is -- and you might well know those things -- you might just blow smoke here to put off some honest inquiries about what's going on in the Oregon governor's race.
Call me a rube from the sticks -- but I think your position sounds a little compromised.
2:34 p.m.
Jul 16, '09
Russell --
I'll refer you to the front page Sunday Oregonian item about blogging by Jeff Mapes from September 17, 2006. (Sorry, not online anymore.) A relevant section:
The issues you're raising are old and tired.
Like I said above, if you don't think it's credible, you're welcome to start your own blog - or just go read somewhere else.
2:39 p.m.
Jul 16, '09
So, if you know how Clem is spending his money, who he might be hiring, and what his strategy is -- and you might well know those things -- you might just blow smoke here to put off some honest inquiries about what's going on in the Oregon governor's race.
One more thing: I don't lie. I may not tell you everything I know - the day job would evaporate if I did - but I won't lie. That's why most of the blogging I do is about Republicans behaving badly - or just the daily tick-tock of what's in the news. That stuff doesn't generally create the same kinds of risks.
I don't see my job as being an investigative journalist, digging up secrets and exposing them. And I don't pretend to either.
Jul 16, '09
I don't disagree that it's buyer beware.
Well, you were fair upthread in posting the correct info from Willamette Week about Merkley and the EPA job offer to Novick.
But, what you're saying is....is that if you know confidential information on a strategy like that involving Novick from a client that pays you money, you're going to remain mum. Because you essentially have a conflict of interest. If you say what you know, you lose your paying gig.
The difference between "I won't lie" and "I won't tell you everything I know" is a pretty slippery slope. Criminal law has penalties in some circumstances for those who don't tell us what they know. And I'm not sure that's a distinction I'd try to teach the kids. Kid: I didn't lie. Mom: Yeah, but you knew when I asked you, and you didn't tell me.
I think perhaps you might draft a little fuller disclosure statement. "I built so and so's website, but my opinions are my own" doesn't seem complete, from what you've revealed above. Seems you should include that you may possess confidential information on a candidate's strategies, and that you do in fact advocate the election of the candidate in question. At least then folks can evaluate what you say thereafter in a fair light.
Or perhaps you might just recuse yourself from commenting on any threads that concern election races where you are receiving a paycheck from one of the candidates?
Jul 16, '09
[Off-topic comment removed. Use Google to find what you're looking for. -editor.]
12:08 a.m.
Jul 17, '09
Russell, we've been down this road before. If I didn't comment on any campaign where I have a current or former client involved somehow, there wouldn't be a blog here.
And no, I'm not going to develop some long two-paragraph disclaimer to post each time I comment.
Seriously, go back and read Alworth's "Toward Ethical Political Blogging". He's never worked for any campaign, and we all work hard to abide by those guidelines. They're good enough for a free publication written entirely by volunteers with day jobs.
If you don't like it, don't read it.
And now, I'm bored. Good night!
Jul 17, '09
Kari, those are fine principles, and I hope you abide by them diligently.
You are in a unique position, as far as I can tell, at Blue Oregon, as a major contributor who also takes paid work from candidates -- and as you revealed upthread, that paid work makes you privy to strategy and information about that candidate you can't disclose or you'll lose your paycheck.
I think it makes it very difficult for you to comment ethically when certain issues are raise here for discussion, i.e. --
Brian Clem reports a $500,000 loan from his mother-in-law, and an interest in running for governor -- though he makes clear he won't run if Kitzhaber does
Shortly thereafter, a top notch campaign manager leaves Senator Merkley's staff.
WWeek reveals Merkley has signed off on a letter to Obama recommending an EPA position for Steve Novick
During this same period, Kari starts getting paid to Clem to do work for Clem.
It seems normal to discuss the timing of Mr. Isaacs departure here, and his connection to Clem.
It seems normal to discuss here what's up with that EPA job offer to Novick.
It seems normal to discuss here why, if it turns out to be true and Mr. Isaacs is announced as Clem's manager in September, why Mr. Isaacs left Merkley in July, before there was any public announcement of Kitzhaber's intentions -- like, why would he leave a secure gig that could go for six years with a new U.S. Senator in July for Clem when Clem said he wouldn't run if Kitzhaber does?
Seems such discussions are encouraged at Blue Oregon, and comments run the gamut.
Your role seems complicated. If Mr. Isaacs does go to work for Clem, I think folks will re-visit your comments above made here in July and wonder what you knew and when you knew it.
You're being paid by Clem. I raise questions above, and you suggest I go bother some journalists, or go elsewhere to start a blog, and add that you are bored. (Your tone borders on condescension and reminds me of a certain Secretary of State long ago dismissing reporters questions about U.S. policy in Southeast Asia as "stupid.")
If you have information about Clem and any of the above, it's sort of valid to stay quiet and cash your paycheck. It's a little unsettling to be dismissive of other commenters.
I do think a more complete disclosure statement would help -- just a couple of sentences -- and gee, you just copy it in real quick.
1:20 p.m.
Jul 17, '09
The EPA Regional Administrator's job for Region 10 is located in Seattle, not DC. Just to clarify "Washington."
Has there been an EPA job offer to Steve? A promotion effort, it seems. He hasn't said one way or another whether he was informed of it but it seems rather hard to believe he wouldn't have been or wouldn't have nixed it if he was simply uninterested.
And what about Steve's apparent choice to work against the expected effort to roll back the legislature's tax increases to meet the budget crisis? Was the offer to do that, or solicitation of interest, or whatever form it took, also a nefarious scheme to keep him from running for governor?
Or do both of these jobs / job possibilities reflect abiding interests of Steve's & relationships with folks involved? The latter appears to be the case to me. On the EPA, my recollection is that during the primary some of his opponents tried to pooh-pooh his environmental record in past EPA work, which was as a lawyer. A high-level administrative job would add dimension to his strong advocacy record.
John Isaacs' stated timeline would not be incompatible with taking up a campaign role in the fall, but that's weak beer for evidence. The claim that another Merkley staffer says s/he is going with him to Clem is unsourced & repeated by an anonymous commentator. Still weak beer, in the "not impossible" category. Another not impossible would be the Isaacs could have other potential offers from potential candidates who potentially might decide to run or not at some point. Such potential!
People should look at Kari's standard disclaimer carefully to understand what he is saying. He a) identifies a potential conflict of interest, and b) makes clear that he his not speaking for his client.
This is about protecting his professional relationships to his clients, i.e. not affirming accuracy or fullness -- in fact limiting fullness as he says above -- or any other particular attempt to respond to the conflict or to "protect" readers from it, except to acknowledge it.
At other times he is not so up front about the limits of what he's saying is in the comments here, but it's clear enough if you think about the actual words for a few seconds.
Both the strengths and the weaknesses of BlueOregon as a blog derive substantially from the networks in which its editors are enmeshed. They also derive from the consistency and inconsistency of columnists with varying viewpoints in getting those out there. But for that, blame the columnists.
A lot of people who blog here have organizational affiliations that affect their viewpoints & vice versa. A lot of commenters do too, including probably many of the anonymous ones whose conflicts we can't know. Does Russell have a an anti-Clem dog in the fight? Is it just personal preference or are there financial or professional or other interests involved too? Who knows?
1:22 p.m.
Jul 17, '09
P.S. I have almost no knowledge of Brian Clem and do not support him or anyone for governor at this point.
Jul 28, '09
Are there any other qualified candidates for Governor whose names are not being talked about?
Sam what are normal blood glucose levels