Yeah, we live in paradise.
Carla Axtman
Okay, Oregon isn't perfect. Not even close. But when the sky is clear and the mercury starts bumping into the 80s, this state is about as close to paradise for me as it gets.
That is all.
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May 18, '09
God I love that song. I think it's the "doo do doo doo" that really does it for me.
You are right Carla, I'm so glad I left Texas. Now only if I wasn't extremely allergic to grass pollen...
May 18, '09
Funny how Portlanders pretend that they like their gray, dizzly climate, but go into ecstasy every time the sun comes out for a day or two.
1:58 p.m.
May 18, '09
Dartagnan:
I don't live in Portland....
I love the drizzly weather cuz it makes everything green and lush. But I don't really get the deep down enjoyment of that green lushness until the sun breaks through.
May 18, '09
I actually prefer the mist and the silvery blue to the heat. Call me a turncoat native Oregonian. I like the mud, the mist, the moist intimacy.
May 18, '09
How about the Beatles, huh? Every now and then it hits me again in a new way. This is supposed to be their 3rd best lead singer - meaning the 2 backup vocals were lead singing legends in their own right? Absolutely incredible. Plus, this is the 3rd best song writer in the band? And he writes this song with it's sophisticated breaks and overall excellence. Where do you begin to calculate the odds of the Beatles forming?
2:40 p.m.
May 18, '09
Good points, Bill. Harrison's song have long been among my most favorite Beatles songs. This is one of them.
I love a lot of the stuff that Paul and John did too. But George's is the stuff that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
As for Ringo... he's clearly talented and who can fail to smile while singing along to "Yellow Submarine"?. But I can't help wondering what Pete Best would have contributed had he not been fired. Contemporaries of both men - who were "mates" according to both Pete and Ringo - invariably report that Best was the more talented drummer.
7:28 p.m.
May 18, '09
Ringo's fine, but for understated metronomics he falls short of Charlie Watts IMO. He's not as thunderous as Bonham, not as wild as Moon, not as precise as Peart, not as complex as Rich, not as soulful as Michael Shrieve, etc.
Fine, fine drummer. Underrated, certainly. But he's not legendary like these other guys IMO.
May 18, '09
When I was young I loved the Beatles but was very technique oriented as a fan. That meant drummers like Billy Cobham, Mel Brown, and Steve Gadd. There is no way you could argue that Steve Gadd isn't a better drummer than Ringo. He can play it all from touring with Clapton to drum/bass funk solos with Stanley Clarke. So there's that way of looking at it for sure.
May 18, '09
Great state but paradise? Honey you ain't never been to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. -Orygun native; UNC alumni-
10:01 p.m.
May 18, '09
Actually I have been to Chapel Hill. But only in the summer. It was dreadfully hot and muggy...and not especially pleasant.
Maybe it's a version of paradise in a different season. :)
May 18, '09
Yes, Bill: yes yes yes yes YES! He is not a great or genius drummer. But he fit the bill.
May 18, '09
Spazzed out and hit send.
I am reminded of the brown paper bag eloquence of some of the Cherokee elders I spent time with. They'd say in six plain words what would take you an entire few days to cipher... grasping for the is-ness the way your entire body grapples for the Truth of pure water straight out of the spring. REally.
May 18, '09
Thanks, Carla. Lovely bright spot in a difficult day.
May 19, '09
Two things to remember, IMHO. Landscape complexity that stimulates primate interest (read: "purty") is directly proportional to the degree that it is geologically active. We may only have a big earthquake once every 300 years, but when we do, it will be the largest one recorded for hundreds of years. Of course, earthquakes don't kill people, buildings do. Our codes are woefully inadequate, we have so much legacy/exempt structure as to make them of no consequence anyway, and when a 9.5 hits it won't be pretty.
Second, hell is other people. Paradise full of Americans is an even more acute hell. This area was much better off, and owes ALL IT'S CULTURAL UNIQUENESS to it's pre-US days, when it was British until well into the 19th century. Put another way, when the bridges come down in the big one, name ONE THING that will entitle the typical crap-as-usual American city on the West bank to call itself "Portland"? Without SE, there is no "Portland". Cheney does his midnight rendezvous routine here with just as much impunity, with just as much waste of tax dollars, as he does in any other city. You can shut your eyes and imagine you're in paradise anywhere.
So, it could be paradise. The population will make sure it isn't, but then, I think of that first consideration I mentioned as a possible paradise. De gustibus non est disputandum, I guess.
7:41 a.m.
May 19, '09
It's pre-US days as in when Oregon was a (relatively) progressive Republic and we had two official languages - English and French - and a military known as the Oregon Rangers and a legal code called the "Organic Laws"? Culturally we certainly have more in common with British Columbia than we do with either New England or the Deep South.
Cascadia anyone?
10:37 a.m.
May 19, '09
Carla
Hmm... and today ...?
There are lots of great things about Oregon but I just don't buy the weather one. Sure, summers here are superb--but summer starts around July and ends in September. (Last year we finally turned off the heat for the last time just before July 4th!)
The apt comparison would be Chapel Hill in July and Portland in January. On a scale of crappiness, I'd take 90 and humid over 35 and rain, thank you very much.
Spring in NC is absolutely gorgeous--starts around mid Feb and ends around mid May. Summer is hot ahd humid for sure, but unlike Portland, virtually every house is air conditioned. (Given global warming, Portlanders are desperately retrofitting their houses.) Fall in NC starts around October and extends well into December. Winters are dry with lots of sun. Yes. That big yellow thing that floats in the sky.
Then Spring returns, the azaleas and dogwoods bloom...
Portland has two seasons. Grey and rainy about nine months long. And 2-3 months of beautiful summer. Maybe one month that you might call Fall until the first cold rain strips the leaves off the trees.
I heart Oregon. But I don't heart the weather. It sucks.
10:56 a.m.
May 19, '09
Yeah Paul, I love today, too. I'm thinking that when I get home from work the lettuce in my garden that I plan to pick for my dinner salad will be fantastic because it rained. I may even get a green onion out of there, too.
I'm an Oregon geek, I guess.
May 22, '09
I should have mentioned that I agree 100% with Carla's sentiments, particularly the green onion bit. I can tell you that I've been mighty chuffed over my head lettuce this week. Regularly I get out of state job offers and have to say no to very cushy arrangements, because all my life technologies would break down horribly without our mild weather and local advantages.
I was just saying that that usually happens in spite. Along with that sentiment, there's something else, and Kevin drove that nail right through the other side of the board!
OK, to the tune of "Rule Britannia" , "Rule Cascadia, Cascadia holds the key, When you think there's no way out recall your history"
Oh, with so many Beeb listeners on BO, I should mention that, yes, that IS the classic BBC sign-off that was permanently retired 4 years ago.
May 22, '09
Oh, come on Paul. Get over your savanna mentality! I have a simple test of judging claims about perfect weather. Apricots. They are the ultimate judges, and ours are damned good. Why do you think Texas and Georgia grow so many peaches?
Seriously, an awful lot of consumer energy waste has to do with making places that are nothing like savanna look and feel like it. Personally, I'm a radical on the point, and say that if you can't live someplace without central heat and/or air, then you shouldn't live there. And anyone that chooses to have it, when they don't need it...AHHEMMM, like HERE...just doesn't give a shit about the right things.
So, I'm saying that the sentiment behind the original post is actually good for the environment. If you can love Oregon's weather, you take the pressure off everywhere else!
One other environmental note for like minded radicals. Days like yesterday, when it hit 77, feel just as nice as the tropical-over-30 days, but allow an interesting consumer test. Shop around your favorite establishments on those days. Note who is running the AC. Then, factor that into where you spend your money. Hey, it's the only criteria by which you'll note that Trader Joe's and Hummer share a common marketing strategy. They both think that having really high ceilings is totally awesome. Then they have to heat/cool all that surplus air...because it looks awesome, screw the environment. The fact that it's no bigger a problem at TJ's than at Hummer, shows the depth of personal environmental action and consciousness.
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