What the hell? Violence at Oregon "voting centers?"
Kari Chisholm
There's some REALLY weird shit happening here in Oregon.
Here's an email from Evergreen Defense and Security Services Inc. to the Douglas County Clerk offering their services to prevent violence at "voting centers" throughout Oregon. EDSS is based in McMinnville, but apparently they don't know that we vote by mail here.
One weird thing I noticed: It's signed "RLTW!" - which is the slogan of the elite Army Rangers unit, "Rangers Lead The Way!"
Does anybody know anything about Evergreen Defense and Security or this guy, Tom Wiggins?
I'm feeling a little creeped out here, and it ain't because it's Halloween.
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Oct 31, '08
They are also owned by retiring state rep. and utter moron Donna Nelson.
1:28 p.m.
Oct 31, '08
Kari,
A correction: He's not saying (R)angers (L)ead (T)he (W)ay.
He's saying (R)epublicans (L)ose (T)his (W)eek!
1:35 p.m.
Oct 31, '08
Don -- I'm pretty sure that Donna Nelson works there, but isn't the owner.
Oct 31, '08
Kari, I got one from Working Assets....they wanted me to sign up for voter protection. DUH....we're exclusively by mail. Hate to see them wasting resources like that and looking like idiots, and they're on "our" side. jeebus.
Oct 31, '08
Kari, well before the Iraq war, Iraqi nationals were brought into NC to be trained by Army Rangers. I knew a Ranger Captain who was involved. We used to talk frequently on the telephone - he affectionately called them his little turds and his little maggots. He commented on how they did not like to work very hard at the training as compared to the Americans who were sometimes washed out while an imported National could schlub along and nobody could really do anything about that.
He was part of the northern-thread assualt on the day we started that war. Later, very soon later, he joined Blackwater.
This same man went home on leave to the backwoods of NE Oklahoma and went out busting up meth labs in the blackjack oak just for kicks. The sheriffs knew it was happening and did nothing about it. People were hurt, but the Rangers on leave were allowed to do as they would. Righteously.
That should tell you just a little bit about Evergreen's reference points.
1:46 p.m.
Oct 31, '08
Kari, did you miss the guy's email address at "former" CIA-front Evergreen Aviation? The people who flew the Shah out of Panama just ahead of an extradition order? Reputed to run guns to the contras? Suspected of being involved in the "black site" flights that were linked to the Portland area?
Oct 31, '08
Perhaps he expects some minor road rage in the library parking lot.
Oct 31, '08
A few years ago, some slimeball in California (I think it may have been Quackenbush or Dornan) hired people to dress up as law enforcement officers (no official insignia) and just stand around at polling places.
In Ohio in 2004, the police and sheriffs posted a car and officer outside of every polling place in the high Democratic precincts in Lake County. This, after a letter was sent out on Board of Elections letterhead (fraudulently of course) explaining to people that if they made an error on their voter registration form they would be arrested if they tried to vote.
A sad state of affairs that people like Tom Wiggins are able to sleep at night.
2:12 p.m.
Oct 31, '08
No, Darrel, I didn't. I just posted an update. If I remember correctly, you've written about Evergreen before. Your help here would be much appreciated.
Oct 31, '08
Spooky and spookier
5:14 p.m.
Oct 31, '08
backbeat:
Actually, we do still do voter protection here. It's just that because we vote by mail, the things we have to watch for are different.
People go to the county elections offices in shifts and watch as signatures are checked, ballots with errors are re-copied, etc.
Oct 31, '08
Jenni, we also watch the lobbies, listen to the telephone asnwering, etc, as there is still a lot of electorate contact with those offices. Word is that the R observers have arrived in Clack Cty and are breaking rules already, engaging the staff, etc, which is verboten. So there is still the public/election staff interface that requires observation and documentation. Just more targeted than in other states where poll voting is still the way things are done. Plenty of opportunity for voter discouragement yet.
Certainly don't need the evergreen jerkoffs.
12:38 a.m.
Nov 1, '08
Rebecca:
Right. There's still plenty of watching to be done at our polls. I remember them watching over my shoulder in '04 to check all my work (I was a temp worker for Multnomah County Elections).
I had lots of problems with Republicans causing problems, like continually stepping over the line in the signature check room, questioning us, etc.
Nov 1, '08
Hi Jenni -- yeah, that's the word on them this year. I'm trying to be charitable and figure they are not being trained and guided well enough for their own good. But, frankly, I suspect it might be more about them feeling they have a RIGHT to disrupt things, step in autonomously and interfere individualistically with the process as it proceeds. I plan to clear my mind and just observe and report with as little personal bias as possible...
Nov 1, '08
Hi Jenni -- yeah, that's the word on them this year. I'm trying to be charitable and figure they are not being trained and guided well enough for their own good. But, frankly, I suspect it might be more about them feeling they have a RIGHT to disrupt things, step in autonomously and interfere individualistically with the process as it proceeds. I plan to clear my mind and just observe and report with as little personal bias as possible...