Wow, two very well respected women in Oregon politics that are not supporting E-List anymore. That's a really bad sign for E-List.

Hopefully they get the message before all of their donors leave.

used to think Emily's list was cool...

I was a regular contributor to Emily's List until this year when they decided that the gender of the candidate was the only thing that mattered. The rabid attack tactics of their president was the frosting on the cake.

Well Charlie Burr - I do believe that the answer is NO. Emily's List is embarrassed really badly tonight. Friends here in DC confirm that they've really harmed themselves nationwide with this endorsement and the subsequent 80-20 victory enjoyed by Steve.

Man, he's come a long way since that first primary in 1996 against Jr. huh?

Barry Jackson

No organization is ever any better than the leadership and the decisions made by the group. Who is running EMILY these days, anyway?

Poorly thought out endorsements (esp. when done by a small group of smart-alecky insiders) can hurt the endorsing organization for years or even permanently.

One of Tinker's commercials rails Cohen for being in our churches?

Great! Democrats are now fielding anti-semitic candidates -- or at least a candidate who would stoke anti-semitism to win an election.

Every single national Democratic party head should have unloaded on Tinker, not just her "incendiary tactics."

What she did should have been absolutely unacceptable in this party! It should also have been widely announced to Tennessee voters that Tinker would receive absolutely no national support in the general if she did win the primary.

It should have been made known that she made herself a complete pariah by stoking the flames of religious intolerance in order to win an election.

I'd have like to have seen a much stronger response from Obama.

Charlie's appropriately appalled, and his reaction here should have been echoed loudly and quite forcefully by the big boys in Washington.

Way to go Tennessee!!!!!!!!!

I guess the voters there sent a LOUD message.

That is unspeakably appalling.

This from Daily Kos: "Nikki Tinker was trounced today in the Democratic primary in TN-09. With 89% of precincts reporting, incumbent Steve Cohen leads Tinker 79% to 19%."

Not only is Emily's list humiliated and disgraced in this defeat, but also Harold Ford of the DLC who backed Tinker. I hope this signals the demise of both Emily's List and the DLC.

"it's better to focus on what she said - not who she is. That's how you stop racism."

Well, having someone say "we don't like your 'incendiary tactics'" seems like rather weak tea for something we all seem to agree was "horribly appalling."

Instead, how about: "We don't like your 'incendiary tactics,' or politicians like yourself who will resort to anything to win. Anti-Semites, or those who would stoke intolerance to win an election are not welcome in this party."

I think pariah was the right word. You know, personal consequences for personal behavior -- not just words. That's how you stop it.

I'm hoping that was part of the message Tennessee voters sent tonight. It's the message the party leaders should have sent right away.

EMILY's original intent was good (among other things, a way for women in states with no appealing candidates to contribute money to women candidates in other states and there was a time they ran an excellent campaign school back in the days when not a lot of women held major office ) but it has become just another bureaucratic fundraising operation which believes it speaks for a large group of people.

Sometimes groups outlive their usefulness and become more about turf battles and inside-baseball politics than anything else. Now that there is a woman Speaker of the House and there has been a woman who came close to being nominated for President (and there are female US Senators of both parties large enough to be a power bloc in the Senate if they so chose ) maybe it is time to disband EMILY. There is a decades-old debate about whether voters act as individuals or as members of groups. If the EMILY and DLC-endorsed candidate got less than 20% of the vote, there is a message in there about the power of voters to think for themselves.

I conceived a dislike for E-list quite some time ago when I discovered just how they operate and think - sex organs trump all. Their roster of support and their mouthpieces' statements make clear the kind of organization they are. Tinker is not an aberration, simply an extension of unprincipled funding mechanisms.

I'd kept myself quiet about them because they hadn't quite plumbed these depths, now they have. I don't mind the idea of an organization reserving its funding for a specified group, assuming there is some sort of principle behind the actual funding.

All that needs to be said to give this story the typically Blue Oregon, can't-buy-a-clue ending:

Emily's List Endorses Kate Brown http://www.blueoregon.com/2008/03/emilys-list-end.html

Who should get Earl's money? http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/08/who_should_get_.html

Earl gave money to Cowan, Emily's List pick AFTER this:

Wayne Scott: Insulting Oregon's Firefighters and Police Officers http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/03/wayne_scott_ins.html

Unfortunately, Senate Bill 400 didn't pass. SB 400 picked up just 30 votes - and like all bills, it needed 31 to pass. Despite years of promising support for the bill, the House Republican leadership managed to twist the arms of enough previously-supportive Republicans to deny a majority.

The vote was almost entirely party line - though Scott Bruun (R) joined the Democrats and voted in favor;and Jean Cowan (D) joined the Republicans and voted against.

Funny thing, about those last two connected items, it was none other than Merkley propagandist Kari Chisholm that castigated the Republicans for their action but came up with Earl's little stunt and then touted Cowan. Very nice, typically Blue Oregon.

It's just all about getting power right Kari, Jeff and Carla? Just like Emily's list cynically (mis)-calculated here.

What I want to know Charlie is when you are to quit being just another hypocrite hanging around in the BO orbit and put your actions where your mouth is and sign off the false progressive community that is BO?

And oh yeah, Kate Brown, just got $5K more from Emily's list 3 days ago, bringing her total take from Emily's List in this election cycle to $20,000, $15,000 of that to run against pro-choice Democrats in the primary.

Can we expect her to return it and denounce Emily's list? Here's the rest of the people we should watch to see if they have a shred of personal integrity (totals for 2008 election season):

Diane Rosenbaum $1000 Regan Gray $4500 Jackie Dingfelder $2000 Linda Brown $5000 Cyreena Boston $5000

I willingly concede the fact that Cowan actually voted for SB400 AFTER Blumenauer's donation in the campaign and there was a mistake in that. And in the haste to round up info I mis-remembered the history and made an incorrect statement about Kari supporting her in the context of Blumenauer's stunt AFTER that vote.

However, no one said anything about cause and effect because that wasn't the point. (It wouldn't make any sense here anyway even if those chronological details were correct --- Blumenauer gave her money and that caused her to vote AGAINST SB400? Kari supported her and that caused her to vote against the position he advocated?) The real question really was about the lack of judgement and venality of the Blue Oregon usual suspects and the kind of Democrats they support. In your own way, you've helped make the case with your off-the-point mark about linear history:

Are you actually trying to imply here that at the time Blumenauer pulled his politically self-serving grandstanding stunt that somehow Cowan wasn't that type of person who could turn around in her first session right after the election and vote against SB400 as she did, even as that was an issue Kari said had been an issue in the making since how many years before she ran and during the 2006 election cycle?

Back to your misguided point about linear history: Once her true colors were on the record, Nutty Early and lead Blue Oregonians like Jeff, Kari, Carla didn't exactly do much to remove her and try to set things right, now did they? Is it more important to you that those who just put a "D" after their name win, rather than it is to actually stand up for the Democratic values that we profess to believe?

The real issue here is about the lack of character integrity that has become endemic in our Party that is at the root of the decline of our Party since 1980, and that we see too often on this blog. That goes right down to the kind of arguments we read in support for Merkley who, with the help of the DSCC, made it the theme of his primary campaign that it was more important to win than it is to be a Democrat with integrity as he repeatedly attacked Novick for calling out Democrats who had and continue to betray the values of Democrats.

Which leads to the final point you conveniently side-stepped: Are you going to call here for Brown and the rest to publicly repudiate Emily's list and return ALL money they were given? And that we as Democrats should repudiate those candidates, unless and until they do change their ways?

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"The fact that this community supported Cohen speaks volumes for honest discussion and progress in places where it isn't expected."

Go Tennessee, go

Plhut | Aug 8, 2008 8:44:31 AM

Do you live in Portland or an area with a volunteer fire department? Could this SB 400 debate possibly be an urban/rural issue where a rural rep. might have gotten lobbying from rural areas where it could have an adverse affect on the local finances?

I don't know the whole story, but I do know that over the decades sometimes coastal legislators have voted in ways that annoyed Democrats from more populated parts of the state.

And what does SB 400 have to do with EMILY anyway?