Myth-Busters Follow-up - Rising Tide Sinking Boats

Jeff Alworth

Last month I posted the second in my exciting series entitled "Myth-Busters" (awards pending), and as a quickie follow-up, there's a report out today that further diffuses the idea that funneling money to the ultra-rich trickles down to the rest of us.  The report, analyzing IRS data, came from economists Thomas Piketty and Emmanuel Saez.  They found:

And have a look at this nice table at right.  It shows that from 1945-'76, the per capita increases were greater than they were from '76-'96 (90% growth versus 64%) and that these gains were greater for bottom 90% of income earners.  By contrast, in the current 30-year period, gains for the bottom nine-tenths of the country were only 10% in inflation-adjusted terms.  For that last tenth?  Growth was 232%.  That's a lotta kielbasa!  Lowering marginal tax rates and capital gains taxes really do make the tide rise, don't they?

  • backbeat (unverified)
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    sorry to go off topic here but do you know where i can get a copy of the 2008 democratic party platform that was approved at the committee meeting a few days ago? ABC has a very skewed version of the abortion plank and I want to read the actual text, free of corporate spin. Thanks.

  • Ted (unverified)
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    You're statistics are not that good, but you can blame the IRS for that. A better source is the (little known) Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances.

    The true share of private wealth held by the top 1% of the population was pegged at 34% in 2004. That can be further emphasized if you subtract home equity wealth. In 2004, the top 1% owned 43% of "non home" wealth. The 20% you are citing is what economists familiar with these statistics call "Income Wealth." I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it's not a measure of the kind of wealth guys like Democratic Senator John D. (you might call him "Jay") Rockefeller IV have.

  • Ted (unverified)
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    YOUR statistics.... Apologies for the grammar.

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    Actually, your analysis of the improvement in the position of the top 1% over the last 30 years doubtless understates the success of that group since very few of those in the top 1% at the end of the period were probably among the top 1% at the beginning.

    The growing inequality in income (real and measured) is a legitimate issue and, in my opinion, concern. Unfortunately, I don't think it lends itself to so simple an analysis as to attribute it all to changes in the tax code.

  • Ted (unverified)
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    ...And total private, personal wealth in the USA is about $50 trillion (with a "T"). So the delta between 20% and 34% is mind boggling in its proportion.

    Maybe it's time to start thinking in terms of a "personalty" tax, or wealth tax, over a certain threshold. The top 1% could, theoretically, pay off America's nominal national debt by themselves and still have several trillion to split.

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    Ted, you gotta offer some sources if you want to be taken seriously. I've shown mine, now let's see yours.

    <h2>Jack, don't misconstrue my last snarky comment as full analysis of the cause of the declining fortunes of the middle class (read: bottom 90%). Follow the first link for a fuller take.</h2>

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