Help! I need somebody! Help! Not just anybody...!
Carla Axtman
Help! You know I need someone....heeellllppp
Having never lived in the Clackamas/Estacada part of the Oregon geography, I feel I've perhaps missed some of the finer things in life.
Like taking my kids to the North Clackamas Aquatic Park or hiking the nature trails at Metzler Park. I've missed out on the splendiforuous experience of a daily commute on the 205 (although most of us west-siders will wager our traffic snarls on the Sunset Hwy any day).
But really, what I think I've missed out on the most is the incredible journalistic stylings of the East County Gazette. This week's issue includes a rather fabulous homage to State Rep. Linda Flores (R-Clackamas), genuflecting over her position on concealed handgun permits. The piece gushes quotes from apparent Flores worshippers who opine about the evils of making public the CHP owners.
Oddly, no quotes or information from anyone who disagrees with Flores' position made it into the piece. Its like reading a transcript from Fox News.
Even more odd--the piece is unattributed. Someone obviously put their time into this article. Yet no byline is to be found.
However, there are pieces at the online version that bear an author's name. This one by Cascade Policy Institute consultant Shirley Iverson is a rather opaque and incomprehensible piece on the Oregon Department of Human Services. And this profile of Joie Smith is clearly marked with Dan Bosserman's byline. So where's the author's name for the Flores article?
And so I seek the wise counsel of those BlueO-ers who reside in the region. Where can one find copies of this paper? Is it in the local supermarket? Do they give it away at the gas station? Is it a freebie at the Chamber of Commerce? And do you know any of the staff?
I've considered calling and speaking with the editor about the weird missing bylines (not to mention the obvious lack of balance in their reporting). But I'd like to hear from the locals first.
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Jun 24, '08
Just out of curiosity, what are your objections to Linda Flores stated positions on this issue?
7:14 p.m.
Jun 24, '08
Hmm....I'd rather keep the post on topic for now. Let's save my objections (or lack thereof) for another time, please.
Jun 24, '08
Here is the original source: http://www.leg.state.or.us/press_releases/flores_042808.pdf
7:48 p.m.
Jun 24, '08
I'm not sure where to pick them up - ours comes in the mail. I'll have to look around to see if I still have my copy.
8:00 p.m.
Jun 24, '08
Nope, just dug through the bill pile of mail, and I don't see it. So unless it just hit the streets, I guess it went into recycling.
When I'm out, I'll see if any stores carry it in the "free papers" area.
Jun 24, '08
Why should concealed carry license holders be subject to a reduced expectation of privacy? Shall we next print the names and addresses of everyone who purchases a firearm in the newspaper every month?
The state has no business divulging people's contact information to anyone for nearly any reason. This is no exception.
Jun 24, '08
Typical of someone who seems to want to complain that there is no opposing viewpoint in a news article but not get to the substance of the actual issue.
Nothing personal but I think the actual subject merits more of a discussion that the obvious lack of journalistic integrity of the newspaper
Jun 24, '08
Part of the reason the article reads like a "fox news transcript" is because you would be hard pressed to find a rush of people in that community that disagree with Flores.
This post reminds of why we keep getting our ass kicked in Estacada, Canby, Molalla and South Clackamas legislative races. Portland Democrats are out of touch with rural politics and until they figure that out and putting up candidates that fit the city mold, we will keep getting our asses kicked. A gun owning D is better than an R any day of the week!
It is not lack of balance if it meets the view of the community. People gush over Flores, because she votes the way they like, she acts like a soccer grandma, and is has an image of having worked her way to the top against the odds. Her image is 98% malarkey, but it doesnt matter, because she sells it.
Dont get me wrong Barton looks great in this race, I am simply using it as an example of why three seats that should be ours (51, 39 and whatever # Molalla is) have been R strongholds for far too long.
10:05 p.m.
Jun 24, '08
Just for those who might not know, this paper covers east Multnomah County as well.
Jun 25, '08
Other than the lack of a byline, I don't see a big problem with the article, either. There are any number of government documents people receive, like drivers' licenses, where the data isn't made public. Should that data be public as well? Or are we only targeting gun owners? I guess what's missing from the article is an explanation of the rationale for making the data public. I'd be curious to know what it is.
Jun 25, '08
Okay, I read the article again, and it does contain some implied support of Flores by the writer, with statements like "Representative Flores has a strong track record in support of the Second Amendment." Also, the upcoming election should have been mentioned, with at least a reference to Brent, and preferably a statement by him on the subject. So Carla's right, it is unbalanced.
8:41 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
It is not lack of balance if it meets the view of the community. People gush over Flores, because she votes the way they like, she acts like a soccer grandma, and is has an image of having worked her way to the top against the odds. Her image is 98% malarkey, but it doesnt matter, because she sells it.
Actually, it is a lack of balance no matter what the general ideological consensus of the community.
Newspapers are usually seen as a place to get news and information. With the exception of the editorial pages and columns, the job of a newspaper is to provide the community with news.
Tainting news pieces with opinion is what bloggers do, not journalists.
I submit that perhaps part of the reason Ms. Flores may have continued success in the community is because of "journalism" like this. If papers are allowed to go unscrutinized with this kind of advocacy, its essentially free advertising for Flores' campaign.
So..does anyone know anything about the people working on this paper? Here's the list:
Published By R. Steven West Managing Editor R. Steven West Editor Antoinette Ellis, MA Marketing Director R. Steven West Display Advertising Sales Kristen Conner Dan Copeland Graphic Design Patricia Saunders Journalists Josh Baker Deborah Connell Kathy Enz Amyl Freeberg Columnists Katie Adee - Youth Josh Baker - Music Glenda Barbre - Mountain History Dave Barry - Humor Chuck Bolsinger - Nature Ryan Boriskin - Sandy Sports Susan Burke-Watkins - Counseling John Connolly - Sandy History Frank DeBiccari - Sports Olga Donvillo LAc - DHM - Health Rodger Freeborn - Estacada Football Julie Gomez - Nature Melanie Hambelton - Estacada Volleyball Lavon LaFresnaye - Garden Alice Lasher - Fire Dept./EMS Scott Lustig - Estacada Soccer James Reed - Books Close to Home Chief Dale Scobert - Sandy Police Pamela Vincent - Lessons from the Garden Michael Willington - Movies David Woodruff - Religion Data Entry Rhonda Henderson Layout & Production Patricia Saunders
Jun 25, '08
If this article was in the editorial section, I don't understand your objection.
Opinion pieces written by the editorial board of a newspaper usually don't carry a byline. You see the same thing in the Oregonian or most other papers.
8:55 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
If this article was in the editorial section, I don't understand your objection.
That's the point. It wasn't.
8:56 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
I've met Steve West and Dan Bosserman and most of the time Steve's been a pretty honest broker in terms of publishing our stuff and Bosserman has been more diligent than many others re reportage out here.
That's all a matter of comparison of the various Super Market and monthly free papers.
If you really want an eyeball melting experience try the lovely Jolene Kamstra over at the Gorge Connection (or whatever it's called this week). She's a direct pipeline for the Cascade Policy Kidz and the religious Far Right. I've seen articles in that rag that were cut and paste from two or three years back.
The overall problem with these papers is that determined propagandists are constantly raining proposed articles on the various editors who may be less than totally attentive to content while looking to get something other than articles on gardening, canning, and heroic Jack Russell Terriers......
The Gazette and the Mountain Times are two monthlies that have been pretty accomodating around election time regarding event notices and LTEs.....
Jun 25, '08
Kind of uptight about this, are we?
It is a small and insignificant publication to begin with, so I am at a loss as to why Carla is having such a childish fit over it. The best thing here is to just throw it in the circular file and ignore it (like some BO people do to me). Just becuase it is touting and R person exclusively does not entitle us to enthusiatically seek out the author and ceremoniously beat them over the head with the article in question. I would say the same thing if the article was touting a D person exclusively. There are bigger fish for us to beat on than this small fry.
However, if Carla feels differenly, then I guess thats what the courts are for.
Jun 25, '08
Gordon Morehouse wrote:
The state has no business divulging people's contact information to anyone for nearly any reason. This is no exception.
This is not general policy, and there is often good reason for that. Voter registration records are public to allow campaigns to contact voters and to discourage fraud. Business done with the government is of interest to citizens. Disclosure allows monitoring on government efficiency, effectiveness, and ethics.
Medical and tax records are some types of information that are kept private. It seems to me that each case should be open to discussion and the degree of privacy set to balance the interests of the public with the interests of the individual.
Jun 25, '08
The editor always has responsibility for the content. I've seen far worse articles in more mainstream publications.
Why are you upset enough to name the entire staff of the paper calling for "information about them"
Did you try phoning the editor to complain? Did you try emailing the paper? Did you offer to submit a counter article as a freelancer?
Maybe they put the article in the wrong place by accident or forgot the byline. Common mistakes when you're under deadline pressures. Did you ask?
Jun 25, '08
Newspapers are usually seen as a place to get news and information. With the exception of the editorial pages and columns, the job of a newspaper is to provide the community with news.
This bit of common sense is anything but. Newspapers in much of the world are overtly partisan starting on page 1: pick up one of the leading British newspapers, for example, and you'll see this. A similarly partisan style was typical in the United States until fairly recently, and is still to be found in some places: witness newspapers such as the Manchester, NH Union Leader. Frankly, I prefer that a paper's biases be prominently displayed rather than oh-so-discreetly shuffled off to the OpEd pages.
10:25 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
I, also, am having a hard time where the beef is with this. Noting that a Republican has a strong track record in favor of the Second Amendment (right to bear arms) seems pretty fact-based to me. In fact, it'd be news if it weren't.
Worse, given how up in arms many progressives are about privacy rights being stomped on by the FISA bill, I'm really not even sure I can say I disagree with Rep. Flores on this issue. Can you imagine the uproar if, say, the home addresses and phone numbers of doctors who give proscriptions for the Death with Dignity act were given out willy nilly? Or abortion providers?
People with concealed carry permits are obeying the law. They should, like any American making an international phone call, enjoy their constitutional right to not be subject to unreasonable search (publication) of their private information.
10:27 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
Kind of uptight about this, are we?
Yes. I'm generally uptight and annoyed when I see so-called news outlets air or publish news pieces that contain biases like this.
It is a small and insignificant publication to begin with, so I am at a loss as to why Carla is having such a childish fit over it.
I think I've explained my reasons clearly. One man's "childish" is another woman's paying attention to stuff that needs to be scrutinized.
Just becuase it is touting and R person exclusively does not entitle us to enthusiatically seek out the author and ceremoniously beat them over the head with the article in question.
Why?
However, if Carla feels differenly, then I guess thats what the courts are for.
Actually, that's what blogs are for.
10:29 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
This bit of common sense is anything but. Newspapers in much of the world are overtly partisan starting on page 1: pick up one of the leading British newspapers, for example, and you'll see this. A similarly partisan style was typical in the United States until fairly recently, and is still to be found in some places: witness newspapers such as the Manchester, NH Union Leader. Frankly, I prefer that a paper's biases be prominently displayed rather than oh-so-discreetly shuffled off to the OpEd pages.
I'm curious as to why this is proper in terms of journalism. Could you please enlighten?
Jun 25, '08
"I'm generally uptight and annoyed when I see so-called news outlets air or publish news pieces that contain biases like this."
It's called Freedom of the press...freedom of speech...freedom of expression...
Shall I go on?
I get annoyed at some things too. Sometimes it's my neighbor's late night racial rants. But I don't go out on seek and destroy missions and include fellow denizens when just a nice contact with the 'offending' party one-on-one (in this case the paper itself) would be much better.
"Why?"
Same thing.
"One man's "childish" is another woman's paying attention to stuff that needs to be scrutinized"
Translation: I am kind of bored today. I need to talk about something...anything. And if you were a man, I would still say it is childish. My comment was not in any way sexist.
11:04 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
It's called Freedom of the press...freedom of speech...freedom of expression...
I'm not saying that the paper is doing anything illegal, so this point makes no sense. They're legally free to advocate for whomever they choose. This is a matter of integrity and journalistic ethics. Some people (like me) actually believe that this stuff is very important. Its one of the most important ways to have an informed electorate.
I get annoyed at some things too. Sometimes it's my neighbor's late night racial rants. But I don't go out on seek and destroy missions and include fellow denizens when just a nice contact with the 'offending' party one-on-one (in this case the paper itself) would be much better.
Actually if you go back to my piece, I mentioned that I am considering calling the paper and speaking with the folks that run it. However, I chose to ask about them here first from those that likely know the paper best: the locals who see it and perhaps read it.
Translation: I am kind of bored today. I need to talk about something...anything. And if you were a man, I would still say it is childish. My comment was not in any way sexist.
It has nothing to do with boredom. It has to do with the fact that I'm doing research and in the process came across this article and this paper. Given the biased nature of a piece that's clearly intended to be news--I believe its worthwhile to note it and look into it further.
I didn't take your comment as sexist, btw.
If it bugs you that much that this matters to me, you've got a little "x" in the upper right hand corner of your window. Click on it whenever you're ready.
11:12 a.m.
Jun 25, '08
Don't know much about the staff, but I'm pretty sure Dave Barry doesn't live in Estacada or East County.
Overall, I think you need to be looking at the top two names on the list, though I'm not quite sure if you're trying rather to identify an author (still might be the case) or decide if it's a lightly edited press release, hence no byline.
In general I think a lot of media criticism pays too much attention to the frontline journalists and not enough to the editors, who are the real gatekeepers and tone setters IMO.
Personally I like critical journalism that makes an effort at integrity, i.e. where journalists don't have to pretend they've checked their brains at the door as the supposed canons of U.S. journalism require ("objectivity" = balance, neutrality, not bringing up something obvious unless you can get a "source" to mention it, and then only reporting what "sources" say, even when an entire debate may be framed on "both sides" to leave out key elements).
I'd rather read The Economist than Time or Newsweek any day of the week, because even though I disagree with their analytical frame, mostly, I can see what it is, and they understand that addressing the strongest case against their viewpoint rather than evading issues ultimately is the strongest course -- and likewise it benefits me to be challenged.
This appears to be a more robust outfit, but the other thing that often happens in rural or small town newspapers is that they are highly reliant on skewed syndication services, and literally often do reprint press releases. They're understaffed and hungry for copy. One thing progressive media reformers might consider is creating some competition in syndicated sources of opinion for such papers.
Not sure what the benefit of making concealed weapons permit holders names public is supposed to be. This seems like one that pushes paranoia buttons rather pointlessly. Poking a bear with a stick just for the heck of it isn't usually considered a good idea. Is somebody really proposing this? Who, why? Or is it actually a made-up issue on Flores' side?
12:23 p.m.
Jun 25, '08
It is a small and insignificant publication to begin with, so I am at a loss as to why Carla is having such a childish fit over it
Actually, while it may be "small" in terms of the fact that it doesn't have a statewide audience, that doesn't mean it is insignificant.
Unless something has changed, I get a copy of this delivered in my mail (free - I've never subscribed to it). Papers like this can be quite important in smaller communities that don't get as much attention from the news stations and big papers. While stuff like murders and rapes get on the news, the locals want to hear about the award the high school won, the activities going on next week, and the road closure down the street. The little local papers can be a lot more significant in these communities than The Oregonian or other big paper.
My professional background is in community newspapers - as both a reporter and a managing editor. As such, I understand their importance. I can tell you without a doubt that the communities we covered turned to our paper first if they wanted to know what was going on in town. Even though one paper only published three times a week, we regularly scooped the daily on major local stories (such as an oil leak into a river). The daily was for reading about the county, state, etc.
Jun 25, '08
I agree with Carla that the article as written is unbalanced. However, a paper's moral responsibility to provide balanced reporting doesn't necessarily dovetail with any legal responsibility to do so. I don't know if there was any such responsibility before the equal time rules for television were defanged, but I doubt there are any particularly toothy ones now. If the paper has a history of unbalanced reporting, probably the best way to change it is to first contact the editors, get a reading of their attitude, and then if necessary put pressure on progressive advertisers if there are any.
As for the privacy issue, Tom Civiletti writes:
Business done with the government is of interest to citizens. Disclosure allows monitoring on government efficiency, effectiveness, and ethics.
Medical and tax records are some types of information that are kept private. It seems to me that each case should be open to discussion and the degree of privacy set to balance the interests of the public with the interests of the individual.
Yes, there are cases where disclosure of some private details to the public is warranted. If someone opens a business, as far as I know their name or the name of the corporation and the location of the business are public record. The names of participants in court cases are to my knowledge public record. Are those participants' home addresses public record? Do we publish the names and home addresses of criminals for all to see? I'm curious.
I'm also very curious what interest the public has in knowing the names and residential addresses and any other contact information for people who lawfully hold concealed carry permits.
A personal anecdote: I support Barack Obama and various other candidates, yet none of them will see a dime from me until Huffington Post (and anybody else for that matter) stops publishing the full address of all political donors in searchable, Googleable form online. Did any of you donate to John Kerry? Try Googling your name with the words "huffington post" and you may be surprised. That's not acceptable to me, so I will contribute to no candidate until it stops. I have yet to figure out if I can contribute to independent PACs without having my address plastered all over the Internet.
2:42 p.m.
Jun 25, '08
Gordon:
That information about contributions is public information. Unless you give under a certain amount, that information is public and is shared as such. I can easily find out that information on a variety of different government sites. Those other sites are just republishing it.
A quick Google search of my name and "contribution" also brings up my name in ORESTAR, the state's online database of political contributions and expenditures. It also brings up Fund Race's page (which is done through Huffington Post) and shows a contribution from me to the Novick for Senate race. The odd thing is that is shows an elephant for me on the map?
Searching on "Jenni Simonis" and contribution brings up even more than just "Jennifer Simonis" and contribution.
Even without Fund Race's web site, I can find this stuff through the government sources. These sites just make things a little more user friendly.
Jun 25, '08
Jenni:
After some searching I find that, at least under Federal law, the cutoff above which contributions must be "itemized" is $200. So theoretically I could donate a total of $195 to Obama and not have my address revealed. I have no idea about the state laws, and until I'm sure about any case, I will err on the side of not donating. Also, I'm still not sure about PACs and am very interested to know.
A while back (I believe over a year ago now) the social networking site Facebook launched a new service called News Feed which aggregated all kinds of information from users on one's list of friends into a single place, and about any given user into a single place on their profile. Now this was all information that could have been found before by a determined user on Facebook -- including things such as a user's posts on the "wall" of his or her friends, comments on other people's photos, and so forth. However, the News Feed feature greatly lowered the bar on the amount of effort required to gather all sorts of information on a person. There was a reduction of privacy in the sense that it required much less time to gather information on a person, but there was a much bigger affront to users' expectation or feeling of privacy.
It turned out to be a large miscalculation for Facebook. Users were enraged. In true slacktivist fashion, the 'protest' took the form of a group on Facebook itself calling for modification or abolition of the feeds. I hit the reload button for a while on the group on maybe its 3rd or 4th night in existence and it was growing at a rate of about 60 users per second. Facebook eventually greatly expanded its privacy options, although it didn't remove the feature which is something many people do find useful as long as they are allowed to opt out.
My point is that just because people could get information "before," greatly lowering the bar to obtaining it without any regard to the consequence is not necessarily a good thing, and certainly not wholly equivalent. Typing somebody's name into Google or FundRace is quite a bit different, and carries far less of a paper trail, than going down to the county records office and requesting some information in the public record.
3:25 p.m.
Jun 25, '08
Gordon:
The state level is $100.
And actually, even without FundRace, you don't have to go down and request the information at an office. It is available online through the governmental entities already.
The comparison between Facebook and contributions isn't a good one, though. We're talking about completely different "public information." One is public as in you supplied the info and said it could be public. The other is public in a legal way and is supposed to be available in a way that is easy for the public to get access to. And that's why the states and the feds have made searchable databases online for finding people who have given over that the state/federal threshold.
With Obama, you're giving to a federal PAC, which means that contribution falls under the federal threshold. If you give to a state legislator, you're under the state threshold.
Jun 25, '08
Thanks for the information. I'm still not entirely clear on the difference between PACs like MoveOn and so forth, and the fact that you refer to Obama campaign as a "federal PAC". I thought PACs were a distinct type of entity from a particular campaign.
Honestly, the Facebook comparison should be even more telling because -- my responsibility or not -- as a donor in 2004 I wasn't aware that my address would become publicly searchable for anyone to see in a matter of seconds with no paper trail. It's not the responsibility of the campaigns to inform donors of this (at least in big enough type such that they notice it). So I didn't intend for my information to be made public in the donation case at all.
12:32 a.m.
Jun 27, '08
All I can do is guess, Carla. By the looks of it, either the multi-hatted editor is responsible or it was written by one of the reporters:
Josh Baker Deborah Connell Kathy Enz Amyl Freeberg
Nobody else on your staff list fits.
If you call the editor, you might find him willing to publish a 'guest opinion' as a way to counter what they wrote. As Pat Ryan says he's okay, that may be the best resolution, rather than a vociferous complaint about ethics. (I agree with you, but going for the guest opinion may prove more effective in reaching readers with your influential capacities.
12:55 a.m.
Jun 27, '08
Pretty much all campaigns, political parties, etc. have a PAC - that's how you accept contributions. Obama's is called "Obama for America."
State parties, federal campaigns, and political organizations that support/oppose federal campaigns will have a federal PAC.
County parties, those running for state-wide positions like governor and AG, legislative candidates, those running for local office, etc. will have a state PAC. The state party often times has a state PAC as well. Organizations like the Bus Project also have a state PAC.
3:04 a.m.
Jun 27, '08
as a donor in 2004 I wasn't aware that my address would become publicly searchable for anyone to see in a matter of seconds with no paper trail.
That's a bit disingenuous. I suppose it's possible that someone could be a donor without ever having read a single newspaper story about politics, but I doubt it.
Have you ever seen a story that reports something like "Gordon Smith has taken $270,000 from oil and gas industry executives"... how do you think those stories get written? It's all publicly available information.
Transparency in government is a good thing. It would be a dark day indeed if all donors to political campaigns were a secret.
Jun 27, '08
Kari, I have MUCH less problem with my name being public than with my home address. That is, indeed, how I assumed those articles were written and I was not being disingenuous, just previously ill-informed.
And call me thick but I'm still not getting if I can donate to a PAC which isn't associated with a candidate but which, say, runs ads against John McCain, and get my address published. I'd love to give more than $200 to Obama directly but it ain't gonna happen -- but if there are other types of entities which will be doing media buys and supporting my interests in the election to whom I can donate more than $100 (state) or $200 (federal) I'd love to hear about it. Maybe what I'm talking about isn't a PAC.
I don't know, you guys are the policy wonks. :)
12:36 a.m.
Jun 28, '08
The PACs all fall under the same rules. It's the 527s that I can't remember the rules on - they may fall under the same $200 level.
Jun 30, '08
Having googled myself and found my name used in vain in Blue Oregon, as it were, I thought I'd respond, though probably too late to be paid attention to. Steve West started the E. County Gazette (since changed to the E. Clackamas County Gazette) several years ago primarily as an advertiser, content being included for the main purpose of influencing people to pick it up and read the ads. It's mailed to everyone in the affected area free, and really does not espouse any particular political position. When Steve West started the Gazette, I was a part-time writer for the now-defunct Sandy Profile, and we disparaged his publication thoroughly. But he became truly interested in responsible journalism over the years, and we truly do make an effort to be (forgive me) "fair and balanced." I make a very concerted effort to distinguish between my news reporting ("We just want the facts, ma'am"), my opinion pieces ("On the other hand"), and my business profiles, which mostly consist of "puff pieces," basically amounting to a half page of free advertising. If you look at the contributions thoroughly, you'll find orientations--political, religious, and social--all over the lot. My own political journey has ranged from vague Democrat to Ayn Rand conservativism (My first presidential vote was for Goldwater in 1964) to radical lib (I was a monitor in the first "International Days of Protest" against the Vietnam War in San Francisco and a charter member of the People's Party in California). I did not vote in the 1972 presidential election because I thought McGovern was too far right. Now I would probably describe myself as closer to a libertarian than anything else, and will probably vote for Ron Paul this fall. The only reason there was no byline on the Flores article was that it came from a news release. I will speak to our editor about so identifying such articles in the future.