Clinton Conceding? Conflicting reports
Paul Gronke
MSNBC, Fox, and CNN say yes.
Terry McAuliffe is on MSNBC TV saying not yet.
Reports indicate that sufficient superdelegates have told Clinton privately that they will announce after the close of polls tonight. Clinton is scheduled to speak in NYC.
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Jun 3, '08
Conceding what? That she ain't gonna win the nomination? Are you serious?
Conceding what everybody already knows is hardly a concession.
How about this:
"Hillary finally admits what everybody else knew weeks ago."
8:39 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
Jane,
I'm just posting the news reports.
In my own opinion, it's time to close ranks. A woman has never come this close to the presidential nomination, and it may be decades before it happens again. Let's celebrate one of the most spirited and historic primary contests in our nation's history.
On to November and victory.
Jun 3, '08
They may still be hoping for an upset in SD (based on the ARG poll) and don't want to diminish turnout. It's not over until it's over.
8:43 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
With a hat tip to Todd Beeton at MyDD, the London Daily Telegraph reports on a dignified exit for Clinton:
We shall see, depending on the deluge of supers today.
8:45 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
Ben,
Our friend in another state who shall remain nameless says the announcement will come on Wednesday in NY.
My DC friends say that staff are being let go.
I'm glad to see it end, but it's always a bit sad to see a campaign close up shop.
8:51 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
If Clinton really wants a spot in the Cabinet, fine, but I think she'd do everyone a heck of a lot more good if she stayed in the Senate. Of course, a special election in New York would almost certainly return a Democrat in her seat, but I still think she'd be better off sticking.
8:58 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
I'm pretty sure a vacancy in a New York seat in the U.S. Senate would actually be filled by gubernatorial appointment. Oregon is one of very few states that do it by special election.
9:10 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
My guess is that the conflicting reports are all accurate and reflect the internal conflict of the campaign. A fitting end, since that internal incoherence was one of the central reasons Clinton lost the nomination.
9:17 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
I wonder then, Kari, whom would David Paterson choose to replace Hillary? That would be a fascinating discussion.
As would the conversation about Joe Biden (Sec. of State?) and other would-be appointees.
As for Joe, I could guess his son (isn't he the state AG?) would be the appointee... but I have no clue for Hillary.
Jun 3, '08
I think she would be far more effective in the Senate as opposed to health secretary. Can anyone name our current health secretary? I know him but only because I happened to live in his state at one point in my life. I think Senator Clinton is a little too high profile for a cabinet position such as this. Obama may ask her to help him craft a new health care agenda and guide it through congress but I doubt it would go any farther than that. I would bet on her only taking 1 position in an Obama cabinet and that's Veep.
9:20 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
"In my own opinion, it's time to close ranks. A woman has never come this close to the presidential nomination, and it may be decades before it happens again."
Funny how those two are probably tightly related...
9:49 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
Garrett
Just peddling rumors, but hey, what is BO about anyway?
1) Rumor 1: Obama will pick HRC as Veep with an agreement that Patterson appoints the Big Dog to the Senate. Side benefit of getting the Big Dog out of the White House.
2) Rumor 2: HRC will concede while extracting a guarantee of Majority Leader of Senate.
3) Rumor 3: Edwards endorsement included guarantee that Obama would endorse HRC's guaranteed health care plan, put Clinton in place to assure this happens.
Just fodder...
Jun 3, '08
Just peddling rumors, but hey, what is BO about anyway?
1) Rumor 1: Obama will pick HRC as Veep with an agreement that Patterson appoints the Big Dog to the Senate. Side benefit of getting the Big Dog out of the White House.
2) Rumor 2: HRC will concede while extracting a guarantee of Majority Leader of Senate.
3) Rumor 3: Edwards endorsement included guarantee that Obama would endorse HRC's guaranteed health care plan, put Clinton in place to assure this happens.
---Bill Clinton as a Senator from NY? Bwahahaha. I'm sorry to say this, but it would take about 1 millisecond for people to start putting together the phrases "Bill Clinton" and "Senate interns". Give him some Valium and a month at Breitenbush Hot Springs. And for gawd's sake don't give him a job that requires him to stay on message and subordinate his massive ego to anyone else, because he's not capable of that. --Aside from wondering how anyone can force Harry Reid out of the Senate majority leadership, good gawd, the HRC-as-majority-leader rigamarole is just one more time when a lot of folks are going to start wondering when her sense of entitlement is ever going to end.
Frankly, I'd like to see Obama pick HRC as VP, because I think that together they'd kick McCain's sorry butt, and the down-ticket reverberations would be great. I think Obama and HRC can both be adult enough to work this out.
Jun 3, '08
Clinton concede? She's too stubborn and has no real inherent common sense to even think about it. Besides - she has nothing better to do with her life...
11:15 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
Joe Biden is an idiot, a major enabler of the aggression against Iraq, and would be disastrous as secretary of state.
11:23 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
As lat as yesterday, Senator Clinton was still pushing the idea that "super" delegates can change their mind up until the vote at the convention.
Of course they can. But what she doesn't seen to notice is that they're not changing their mind and going to her side - they are moving to Obama.
I don't know that she's ready to give up, but even President Clinton seems to know it is time.
She could keep going to the convention even though she's let the bulk of her staff go.
11:36 a.m.
Jun 3, '08
"A woman has never come this close to the presidential nomination, and it may be decades before it happens again."
I'm banking on the fact that it won't be decades. Never before have there been so many women who could become presidential candidates without question..
Kathleen Sebelius Janet Napolitano Claire McCaskill Mary Landrieu and more....
Hillary Clinton is not our only shot for a woman to become president. Her exit from the campaign will hopefully allow other women to come out of her shadow. There are, and will be others...
Jun 3, '08
Thank you Kristin. Why "decades?" In some sense no one can predict the future, but there's no need to assume a totally dismal scenario either.
Same goes for "last chance for a woman President in our lifetimes," unless you are all gravely ill or extremely venerable. There will be plenty more chances. Will one make it, who can say, but chances there will be.
12:24 p.m.
Jun 3, '08
Kristin Good list, but I don't think Landrieu has national potential.
Joel By all reports, HRC has been a very effective Senator. As to her sense of "entitlement," losing a two person presidential nomination contest by the narrowest margin in history demonstrates that she has lot of support in the Democratic Party.
1:04 p.m.
Jun 3, '08
As long as John Edwards is Attorney General where he can start kicking ass from Day One, I don't care which Democrat Obama picks as Veep. THAT's gonna be the key Cabinet appointment coming out of the Second Dark Ages; get that right, and we get work done.
And for my liking, Hillary Clinton is light years more preferable as Senate Majority Leader than Harry Reid, although either need to boot Joe Lieberman out of the Caucus.
1:07 p.m.
Jun 3, '08
"As to her sense of "entitlement," losing a two person presidential nomination contest by the narrowest margin in history demonstrates that she has lot of support in the Democratic Party."
Or, one could say the contest was made closer by a candidate who used numeric alchemy to falsely convince her supporters she had a chance, and she was being denied the nomination for some other reason than that they preferred Obama. I bet if Paul Tsongas had ridden Bill Clinton's bimbo eruptions all the way to June and told everyone the math was somehow on his side and it was really just discrimination against people who start their last name with two consonants in a row, we might be talking about that barnburner 1992 primary.
Jun 3, '08
"one could say the contest was made closer by a candidate who used numeric alchemy to falsely convince her supporters she had a chance, and she was being denied the nomination for some other reason than that they preferred Obama."
In other words - the Kool-Aid is always better when you keep putting sugar in it.
Jun 3, '08
The progressive media and blog community have made it clear that HRC is nothing more than a drain on the Democratic Party and that she should get off the stage as soon as possible.
Given the way she has been treated, she should concede after this evening's results become clear -- and stay as far away from the battle for the Presidency as possible. During the convention (if she's allowed to come at all by the Obama forces), she should make innocuous statements about the importance of electing Democrats. She should wish Obama well, but make no statements of support. (They'll just be misinterpreted anyway, as have most of her comments the past three months.) In effect, she should say, "It's been an interesting race; see you in January."
Those supporting Obama have made in quite clear that HRC beings nothing to the proceedings. They should be left to their own devices to make whatever they can out of the race this summer and fall. I find it incredibly condescending and hypocritical for BHO supporters to ask her to work on his behalf, and to ask her supporters to support BHO, when these same people have gone far out of their way to destroy her credibility.
It's his show now. Let him and his legions see what they can do on their own.
Jun 3, '08
Landreiu? Don't make me barf. Regularly votes against us.
Jun 3, '08
Rural Resident: This primary was long, hard and at times pretty damn dirty. The same snarky comments and implications you made about BHO could easily be made by a bitter Obama supporter about Clinton. It's true that some Obama supporters and many talking heads in the media "made in quite clear that HRC beings nothing to the proceedings". The same can be said for the Clinton Crew. For every punch one candidate would throw the other candidate would come back with a 1-2 combination. That's just the name of the game. After Super-duper-incredible-magnanamus Tuesday without a nominee I kind of expected this thing to go into at least May if not all the way until now. And while this further helped make emotions run high on either side, in the end it is good for our party. We are coming out of this with the strongest possible nominee that is not only able to take on McSame, he is going to be able to put a great big progressive boot so far up his butt he will spend the rest of his time in the senate trying to wash the rubber taste out of his mouth. Asking HRC and her supporters to get behind and work hard for Obama isn't hypocritical or condescending. It's the right thing to do. If HRC were the nominee I would back her 110%. Hell, if Mike Gravel were the nominee I would even give my all for him. I, and most others I believe, refuse to cut my nose to spite my face. The stakes are just too damn high. Have a beer, think fondly about what might have been and then get over it.
Jun 3, '08
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I think this puts it well...
Jun 3, '08
"America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love."
Excerpt from speech Obama will deliver tonight ...
Posted at Drudge