Just saw that. Hoo-Rah.

A couple of days ago I tried to pull together a slideshow photos of Hillary, waving, with the Chambers Brothers song "Time", playing in the background.

It was beyond my technical ken.

But, had I succeeded, I would post it to YouTube, now.

Too cool! And good timing. Sucks the air right out of the WV result. And if there was any doubt the party is coalescing around the presumptive nominee, it's vaporized. On to Oregon!

Whoooo hoooo! Good news. Smart men.

Now that Edwards has made his endorsement, will that also change his mind and accpet the VP nod from Obama if offered? Or do the Dems go for Richardson instead? I do not think Billary will accept a VP invite becuase it would be too much of a "consolation prize"

Then again I could be mistaken...

This sounds like the last nail. Now the Obama supporters should stop trying to push the Clinton supporters over to McCain so we can claim a victory in November. It is an easy win unless the democrats mess it up. Hillary should not quit until June 4th so everyone believes their vote really counts despite what Ted Kennedy thinks. He has proven that his judgement is not always the best. We have a chance to start correcting the wrongs of the last 7+ years.

It's time to put away the bats and clubs and come together for November. By any measure it is over, we have a candidate. Let's go beat the hell out of Insane McCain and the right wing. Let's send President Obama on to victory with a huge victory here in Oregon. It's going to be one hell of a party Tuesday night.

If Hillary has any class left, she would, and should, announce her dropping out right after her defeat here in Oregon, and then announce in the same breath her endorsement of Obama....

yeah, and she can stop with the race-baiting already.

How many "last nails" can you put in Clinton's coffin?

Anyway, she will stay in the race until at least June 3rd, and I personally predict Friday June 6th, as she has to remain in that long to allow her to legally keep her campaign committee operating past the convention. She needs to do this so she can pretend that she can eventually pay off her campaign debt.

Agree with Jenni, esp. about the unpaid vendors. Saw a quote from McAuliffe this a.m. boasting that they "have the money to play" and I thought, whose money would that be?

BTW, has anyone heard where in Oregon Obama might appear this weekend? I missed him last time. :-(

Now the cabinet is starting to assemble. Richardson as Secretary of State, Edwards as Attorney General...Clinton will probably be asked to run as the Veep no matter what but I wonder if she will accept. After all the things she has said to trash Obama in last attempts to save her candidacy will be hard to take back if she accepts.

That's just great, sweetie.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=Juy9NwI8_i0&rel=1&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/Juy9NwI8_i0/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskKMCCV5hSnNCUcFK2Ub0H67&hl=

I predict that Hillary will suspend her campaign in the next two weeks. I predict that she will be in Obama's cabinet as head of Health and Human Services working on the nation's health plan.

Let's knock off the bullshit and anger. it's time to join together or do we really want our children and grandchildren to be locked into WAR for the next 25 years. Do you want health care, do you want housing, do you want an end to senseless war. STOP. It is over. We need to unite , nor divide.Let us submerge our own ego's, let us love ourselves and our children, let us unite. yOU KNOW IT IS TIME. BREATH DEEEEP!

m --

This has only just begun. The way you people have piled up on Hillary is just disgusting. It wasn't so long ago I bet that you had her bumper sticker on your car. This election has clearly shown that while Hillary is qualified, she's a woman and you and your like would so very much like us Hillary supporters to just keep our mouths shut and go bake brownies or something. Well I've had it and a lot of my friends have had it too.

Not M-

Come on. The growing consensus that it is time for Hillary to admit defeat has nothing to do with gender. No one (Chris Matthews aside) ever made anything in this campaign about gender. She tried (and is still trying) to make it about race, but that's a whole different story. Please do not take your ball home because your candidate lost. Just picture John McCain with two Supreme Court picks- the rest will come.

My predictions for what they are worth:

1) Hillary Clinton will not drop out until MI and FL have been dealt with even if that takes her all the way to the convention.

2) She will not rally behind Obama. She will not endorse him.

3) At least 10% of her following will either vote for McCain or sit this election out.

If it does not cost Obama the election, it will make the race tigher than it would otherwise be.

Actually, HRC disclosed her time table this evening in an interview with Brian Williams of NBC as shown on Olberman's Countdown show.

She will wait until the Michigan and Florida delegate situations are settled by the end of May, then wait for the last votes in early June, and around the 5th to 7th will see where she's at.

In other words, as my earlier post disclosed, she is waiting past the magic day of June 3rd. If she shuts it down on or after June 3rd, then she can keep the campaign committee operating indefinately, and can attempt to get donations to pay debts. Shut down before June 3rd, its an entirely different legal issue, forcing her to be responsible for her debts in a different way.

Its really not about "counting the votes" etc., etc. - its about money at this stage.

As I predicted earlier - plan on Hillary Clinton formally conceding to Obama on June 6th, +/- one day.

Oh sorry, here - perhaps this will work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4STLISLdxi4

it's Obama calling a female reporter "Sweetie" when she asked him a question about workers in a factory. Oh, and he and his buddies all have a good laugh about it. If you can't view it you should just go to youtube and type in "obama sweetie" and it'll come right up.

mkd --

The "consensus" you speak of is that same snobby group that delivered us Dukakis. We can't win with African American's and Egg Heads only -- I think someone in Hillary's group said that, and I think it's true. The fact is that like Hillary, Obama can not win without the super-delegate's say-so and the super-delegates are scared -- Obama has not performed well in traditional bell-weather states where Hillary has, they know that if they give the nod to Obama, they may be taking a risk with the executive branch -- they also know that if they don't take the risk with Obama, they may risk losing the black vote for a generation.

I think it's time to stop the "Clinton has no class" stuff. We've won. Let's be a little more gracious about it. I'm sure Clintonites are feeling a little "bitter", and rubbing it in is not going to help us win in November. I had made a firm decision not to vote for her if she stole the nomination through superdelegates. I'm sure her supporters have made the same vow. They're not going to change their minds if we as his supporters can't live up to the values we claim to espouse.

Not m- you're partially right, I was very ready to vote for her (or have her bumper sticker on my car). I used to really like her, I was turned off by the "kitchen sink strategy", but I think my final straw was when she said "he's not a muslim...as far as I know". She seemed a lot more gracious today on cnn than she has in a long time. If that was how she ran her campaign this whole time, she may have had my vote.

Steve --

If it's all about the money, than why is Hillary spending anything on ad buys? Seems she could just set her campaign on "coast" right? and not spend any more money?

OK I get it. It's come together time. But seriously- Barack Obama as Michael Dukakis?

Obama has a problem with Appalachia, that I will freely admit. Josh Marshall breaks it down as well as anything I've seen (link at the bottom). But the rest of the country seems to think he's swell, so I'm not sweating the fact that the good people of Appalachia would rather vote for a full blooded American who's not Muslim than a...uh...full blooded American who's not Muslim.

The post about people in Appalachia not liking Barack Obama

OK I get it. It's come together time. But seriously- Barack Obama as Michael Dukakis?

Obama has a problem with Appalachia, that I will freely admit. Josh Marshall breaks it down as well as anything I've seen (link at the bottom). But the rest of the country seems to think he's swell, so I'm not sweating the fact that the good people of Appalachia would rather vote for a full blooded American who's not Muslim than a...uh...full blooded American who's not Muslim.

The post about people in Appalachia not liking Barack Obama

Hillary will be our next president. Hillary is smarter than Obama .

Hillary will be in campaign until she wins the nomination.

God Bless Hillary Clinton God Bless America Thank you Jesus Christ.

Edwards has sold out. Disgusting. And it's so arrogant of both men to stage this endorsement in Michigan after the two of them conspired to disenfranchise Michigan voters in the primary. It's voters who should matter, not has-been politicians like JE. And, we voters love Hillary. In spite of being heavily outspent, Hillary is winning the voters the Democrats need to win in November. There's no way BO can beat McCain. I hope the Democrats wake up before it's too late.

I don't think it's just one reporter that has been sexist. One of the reasons it took me so long to swing over to Obama was the obvious sexism. At least locally I've heard Se. Clinton called "bitch" many many times -- it makes my heart sink, when I think of all the work I've done to link violence against women to sexism. Sad.

But I don't think one "sweetie" a sexist makes, but I do understand that in a sexist world, the only was the overcome it is to have women in power. But you could say the same thing about a racist world.

I like Sen. Clinton as Sec. of H&HS -- but remember is was Pres. Clinton who did welfare reform -- if you can call it that.

shel - the only person I know who "conspired" to "disenfranchise" Michigan voters was Clinton campaigner Terry McAuliffe who was on the DNC committee that made the decision. Additionally, at the time of the early primary in Michigan, the voters were told the election wouldn't matter and that their votes were pointless (inlcluding by your beloved Hillary Clinton). Many people therefore decided not to vote - including many Hillary supporters! If Michigan is counted as-is, it disenfranchises those who were eseentially told not to vote. Yes, a re-do would have been better, but they couldn't figure out a way to do it properly. And no, you can't blame Obama for that although I know Clinton's campaign has tried. He could have done more to try to find a solution, absolutely, but he didn't prevent one from being found. Very different.

Finally, we all have candidates that we admire and support - I was an Edwards gal. But loving your candidate doesn't mean you have to hate the others. It doesn't mean you have to abandon your party. Your beloved candidate has, in fact, asked you not to do so. She has asked you to support the eventual Dem nominee, whoever it is. If you admire her judgment on health care, foreign policy, etc. why not also her judgment on supporting the eventual nominee?

Not M writes, "Steve -- If it's all about the money, than why is Hillary spending anything on ad buys? Seems she could just set her campaign on "coast" right? and not spend any more money?"

It's all about the perception of keeping the campaign going, and probably some self delusion. Please remember that there is both a campaign (e.g. some of the people Clinton owes money to), and the candidate. She might well think that she can still pull a long shot off, but her staff know better.

Cognitive dissonance - we believe what we do. In a campaign, one reality is what all the numbers will say, and another is all those cheering people in your face.

So, a little of Hillary believes its possible, her staff who will benefit financially from keeping it going won't tell her otherwise, and she can't fold her tent until June 3rd or later anyway. -- Why not keep the campaign going?

I have detected a myth emerging from the supporters of Hillary that in the end, she lost because she is a woman- and I just want to address this fantasy right now:

She lost because she ran a crappy campaign. She lost because her own senior advisors did not understand the rules of the nominating process. She lost because her organization was top heavy and her message was uninspiring. There are a dozen good and valid reasons why Hillary Clinton failed to win the nomination (that was hers to lose) and none of them have anything to do with being a woman.

I am a political junkie and have followed this Seemingly Endless Bataan Death March to the White House from day one and have been astounded at the absence of gender as an issue in this campaign. Hillary Clinton is a fully formed political actor in the minds of the American people and distaste for her is rooted in who she is not what she is.

I’m sure it’s very easy and comforting to say “she lost because she’s a woman”- but don’t we all get pissed when George Bush goes out and says “terrorists hate us for our freedom”? It’s the same kind of reflection-squelching cop-out. Terrorists hate us because of a perceived pattern of economic and social imperialism- not because “we’re free”. Hillary Clinton lost because she made strategic and tactical blunders throughout the campaign- not because she’s “a woman.”

PS This whole “she lost because Barack Obama outpent her thing” has got to stop too. She had every financial advantage in the book going into the race. She blew through her war chest on the assumption that the race would be over on Super Tuesday- when it wasn’t she found herself up S creek without a P. The fact that Barack Obama was able to outspend Hillary Clinton in the later states only underscores my point that her campaign was mismanaged into the ground.

Richardson should be considered for a cabinet post because he is the only US person the North Koreans will talk to without throwing a temper tantrum about speaking with them in the first place.

But thats another issue for later.