Er ... doesn't the fact that Dancer (who has been our local anchor here, and not exactly a National Merit Scholar, if you catch my drift) has decided to "out" himself as a Republican AND as a rat swimming TOWARDS a sinking ship pretty much say what needs be said about his political acumen?

Lars merely confirms it: Not the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree. I guess he's counting heavily on the "looks" vote.

Are you focusing on the fact that illegal aliens can vote in Oregon, and thinking that fact will help Democrats? I think that most Oregonians are against giving them the vote.

The fact that current Democrats in office caudal the illegal aliens will work to Dancer's advantage, not his disadvantage. It is an issue that Dancer can take advantage of against his Democrat opponent.

Are you focusing on the fact that illegal aliens can vote in Oregon, and thinking that fact will help Democrats?

Umm... no. How did you get that?

Maude, I don't think there's any chance of Dancer will take advantage of something that, apparently, he hasn't even heard about.

The point of this thread is that although you and I probably strongly disagree on the issues, you seem to have more of a grasp of issues affecting the Secretary of State's Office than Mr. Dancer does!

Being a commercial TV local news anchor would likely drive a highly intelligent person stark raving mad.

Old Lars is not really the brightest bulb in the chandelier either. I wonder why he isn't getting his paper work turned in to Bradbury's office to contest one of these open offices?

It has been proven over and over again that the false issue our elephant friends call "voter fraud" which includes "illegal aliens" registering to vote just plain doesn't occur except extremely small numbers.

Apparently Rick Dancer hasn't been brought up to speed on how to be a good racist yet. Lars is sure to show him the ropes.

Can we finally call the "illegal immigrant" meme (and the bogus claim that Democrats are "caudle"-ing them -- i.e. "coddling" -- by its true name?

It's racism, pure and simple.

The whole meme has always been about "Mexicans" (NOT, significantly, Canadians) and that's the whole core of this election: crypto-racism. (With, I note, a dash of homophobia in another 'God-hates-fags' Fred Phelps-style initiative).

It's OK for GOP-ers to hate them brown-skinned "illegals" what am stealin' alla their hard-earned tax dullards: It's MINE! It's MY money! MINE! MINE! MINE!

(Good Christians that they are -- or claim to be.)

And so, Lars can wear his virtual Klan sheet and the GOP can pretend they're not screaming about racism, pure and simple. It's Trent Lott letting slip his love for Strom Thurmond's Segregationist Party presidential run in '48; it's screaming that EVERYONE must obey the law, when we're in a war that is a WAR CRIME according to our own formulation (Nuremberg Trials), we're torturing in violation of the Geneva Accords (which we sponsored in its latest form); we're consciously abrogating (and they are DEFENDING) the violation of the fourth, fifth and other amendments, engaged in illegal wiretapping, rendition, etc. etc. etc.

And the "illegals" are breaking the law?

The sheer hypocrisy of the self-righteous collaborators, these aiders-and-abetters of lawlessness and murderous criminality is staggering. Gargantuan. Were it assigned a numerical measurement, the number would exceed a googleplex.

But, of course, they're for the "Rule of Law" over a "crime" (illegal voter registration) that virtually NEVER happens, and has NEVER affected a single election in the history of the state of Oregon.

Period.

And, so, with all due respect, might I suggest:

Shut your cakeholes, you racist b*stards.

Burn your crosses on some other state's front lawn. We don't need your kind here in Oregon.

Right, Lars?

Good point, Kari! :) I wonder if Lars files taxes for income earned in Oregon...

Though, he could always run for Congress in Oregon.

What I would like to know is whether someone in a local office somewhere might not recognize Al Gonzales (most famous Republican of Hispanic origin I can think of) and ask "do you have the right to be in this country?".

Somehow I don't think those folks would talk about "coddling" folks who overstayed visas from Europe or Asia.

Amen, Hart!

"And the "illegals" are breaking the law?"

That's why they are called "illegals".

Hart, do you have a Websters? Get a clue.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -

il·le·gal /ɪˈligəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-lee-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.
–noun 3. Informal. illegal alien.

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I guess some only see the "illegal" stuff that they want to see.

Just as some only read the words in the dictionary that they want to read.

That's a deadly dangerous sort of myopia -- especially when, confronted with a legitimate accusation of racism, one COMPLETELY ignores it and its unpleasant implications.

But, as John Adams said: "Facts are stubborn things." You can't be upset about a mote of lawbreaking when the plank of lawlessness entirely passes you by. The dictionary word for that ocular condition is "hypocrisy."

"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue." (La Rochefoucauld).

Thanks, Val, et al.

"Lars can wear his virtual Klan sheet and the GOP can pretend they're not screaming about racism, pure and simple. It's Trent Lott letting slip his love for Strom Thurmond's Segregationist Party presidential run in '48;" -Hart

For a response to the above nonsense see this website. http://www.wayneperryman.com/

Thanks for the correction Kari. I had forgotten Lars was a resident of Washington.

The fact is even if he did still live in Oregon, he wouldn't put his career where his lying mouth is to run for office because he knows he wouldn't win.

For a response to the above nonsense see this website. http://www.wayneperryman.com/

Well, first, I'm not a Democrat anymore, second, the parties SWITCHED sides, in case you hadn't noticed, and Perryman's cited site is a non-sequitur in this argument.

What the 19th Century Democratic party has to do with the 21st Century GOP's invocation of anti "Mexican" racist memes is termed, classically the "argumentum non sequiturum." (It does not follow.)

Might I compliment Ethan on his dismissive ad hominem tone, which generally indicates one is losing the argument on logical grounds.

Or, try this, I don't see anyone screaming about building a hundreds-of-miles-long fence on the Canadian border.

The "illegal alien" argument is racist "code," as was my ANALOGY (look it up) about Trent Lott's "code" about Strom Thurmond, whom, I note, switched from Dixiecrat/Democrat to Republican, as did Jesse Helms, as did the "Council of Conservative Citizens" change to the CCC from the KKK. The CCC that Lott got in trouble for speaking to, BTW.

Barry Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, remember.

If you want to talk dismissively about the history of American racism, pick someone other than a member of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, and g-g-grandson Underground Railroad Quakers on both side of his family tree. Call it an anti-ad-hominem, if you will.

Thanks.

Let’s just get out there and say Dancer is not the sharpest dancer on the floor (bad I know), but what we don’t need is, again lars trying to influence politics here in Oregon just like that weirdo from Nevada Loren Parks with out actually living in our state. But lars sure attempts to give that impression he does. The Oregon GOP is very desperate to fill some positions so much so that they are and will garnish help from out of stators, I’m sure the dems do the same but not to the degree or frequency of the GOP. Rick should ask lars on the air, can I count on your vote?

Lars Larson interviewing Rick Dancer....it sounds like something out of Hollywood, what with the catchy names all chockablock with alliteration...Rick Dancer - Hold Me Closer, and Lars Larson - straight out of the red-necked northwoods. Both these guys careers in the media tanked. Larson ends up on a fourth-rated indy in Portland (KPTV) and Dancer on KEZI, an ABC (always been crappy) affiliate in Eugene.

These two made what names they have by working in Television news, a business best described by Hunter S. Thompson when he said: "The TV business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the journalism industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason."

Unfortunately, neither Larson or Dancer fit the Thompson reference to "good men."

Larson and Dancer were two of the longest and worst offenders in Thompson's trench and they struyyed down that long plastic hallway until they were unceremoniously drummed out - most likely for beeing too old and too gawky-looking to sit in front of the Hi-Def cameras.

Americans want their anchor men to be manly, with just a touch of gray. Larson, whose sonorous voice suits him fine for AM radio, didn't fit the small screen well, and Dancer was rapidly fading into the oblivion of the Black Hole kown as Eugene television. His bling was fading fast in the 132nd TV market.

In the end, they show their true colors, and blow the lid off the conventional wisdom that television news people are all liberals. They are not Reporters. To refer to either as a true news reporter is an insult to the profession.

Larson and Dancer are mirror images of the reactionary families and the staid corporations who own and operate television and radio stations across the nation.

Now, no longer content with curing Eugene of it's unending insomnia and Duck fever by lulling listeners with his announcing voice, Dancer wants to destroy the Secetary of State function and take what is a noble institution into the political arena where he can dance on it's grave. Do not be fooled by his dashing appearance and his FM Djay voice - Dancer, like Larson, is just another massive ego who requires more exposure than just one TV transmitter can offer.

Vote for anyone but Dancer and write vitriolic letters of complaint to the FCC and to anyone who sponsors Larson's radio show. He is another insult to intelligence and should b back in small market TV where he had rsien to his level of incompetence.

Anchor man is righteous. Lars Larson is one messed up dude. He sounds like a guy walking round with a stick up his...! And Dancer - man! the dude ain't got nothing going on. These two dudes ought to be slammed up for the trash they talk on the tv and the radio, you know what I'm sayin?

When I think out Dancer as Secy. of State, I think of George Wallace. This dude was trying to be the governor of Alabama, dig. He said: "...if I didn’t have what it took to treat a man fair, regardless of his color, then I don’t have what it takes to be the governor of your great state." George Wallace - the dude ended up drooling in a wheel chair, man.

Don't get me wrong. Dancer's just a pretty face on the tube, in the ALL-LILLY WHITE Eugene. What does he know about what the rest of the brothers and sisters in Orygun need? Nothin. Vote for anyone but keep Dancer off your card.

Anchor Man and Jackson Jones are way out of line. I've known Lars Larson and Rick Dancer, in the biblical sense, for many years. Even though they are rather prudish in their on-air demeanor, they are, after all, siply men with needs. I was always happy to help them meet those urges.

During all those years when I was on my back, doing my job, tryig to stroke their creative mien, I thought to myself, someday I might just write a book about my experiences as a concuubine for the media darlings.

But then, I rethought my thoughts, thinking that perhaps I might be sued for libel or slander. But then i remembered I had photographs and voice recordings. What with today's technology, I could sell these items to the highest bidder and retire.

But then, rethought my thoughts and decided it wouldn't be fair to the two gentlemen. After all, they are just weak minded creatures with carnal lust as their driving force. be kind

I don't personally know Lars Larson, but I have been sickened by listening to his ugly absurdities on air. I do, however, know Rick Dancer, and know him to be a very intelligent, caring and involved citizen and human being. I would not normally even consider voting for a Republican, especially in these very politically divisive and critical times, mostly because I really believe we are in an era that could just as easily slip into some sort of overt neo-Fascism as not. But I will vote for Rick, because I know that he would not abide being part of that sort of political drift, and because he has been MUCH more than a "pretty face" on t.v. He has sought out underrepresented voices, championed the oppressed, learned a massive amount about civic affairs and civil interactions while he has been a public media figure. And, while I am suspicious of people who use religion as a pandering tool, in all my interactions with Mr. Dancer, he has never even referred to his religious beliefs unless asked, upon which inquiry he responds honestly, without equivocation and with modesty and moderacy. I hope anyone who is tempted to believe some of the nasty and unwarranted things that are being said and will be said about Rick Dancer in the course of this campaign will take it upon themselves to find out the truth (or at least go searching for it) rather than take the word of people who are simply name-calling. Rick would be a great addition to our slate of elected officials helping to administer the Oregon ship of state.