Merkley and Novick at the DPO Summit
Thanks to the Washington County Democrats, we've got video of the joint appearance of U.S. Senate candidates Speaker Jeff Merkley and Steve Novick.
Visit Google Video to see many more videos from the Summit.
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Oct. 10, 2007
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4:08 p.m.
Oct 10, '07
Woot to the WashCo Dems!!!
Oct 10, '07
A big thanks to ADAM GRETZINGER for video taping everything, instead of eating his food.
Lupita Maurer
Oct 11, '07
Novick isn't afraid to name his policies up front by naming specific bills. I especially like how he supports multiple health care bills. It will be a battle to get health care passed. We need someone who will lift all boats, Novick may not be pretty like 'old Gordy Smith, but he's got a bit heart, unlike Mr. Smith. Go Novick..
Oct 11, '07
I noticed that Novick attacked Merkley on that resolution to support the war. While I dislike the Democratic candidates attacking eachother I think its an important point, why did Merkley give Bush the benefit of the doubt. He's a republican and should never have been trusted. Mr. Merkley didn't get a chance to respond to that point in the video. But i'm wondering from people what his response to Novick's remark about that? What about all of the other Democratic law makers who voted along with him? Foul move? Wondering why we didn't get other Oregon House Democratic candidates being critized for the same reason.
Also, do folks know there are actually 3 democratic candidates in the Oregon Senate Race? The third candidate is Candy Neville from the Eugene area. Where was she?
Oct 11, '07
They are both a friend of labor, but I think Novick will go the extra step.
Novick made quite a few points, I think its important to look at them all not just the Merkley comment:
Oct 11, '07
Blue O, as a resident from S. Oregon thanks for posting the candidate views presented at the summit. Thanks too Jimmy for linking to yet another candidate. Ms. Neville says we can no longer afford to be ignorant. Like believing the pablum linking Saddam to 9/11 and the non-existent WMDs. I would add we must be vigilant in electing future leaders who will do the heavy lifting to fix this mess. Being able to access the candidate views on this site helps blunt the ignorance which results in the election of leaders like Senators Smith and Walden. I credit Merkley for mentioning Smith's support for off-shore business interests. His remarks were inspirational. I was also impressed with Novick's specificity in identifying bills he supports and those he would sponsor. Now, I need to hear Merkley's response to dealing with the apparent hypocrisy in voting to support the pre-emptive overthrow of Saddam while criticising Smith on the issue. Thanks for helping inform my decision, I will stayed tuned.
5:44 p.m.
Oct 11, '07
He didn't. He stood on the floor before voting and said that he didn't think Iraq was a threat, thought invasion was not warranted and would not help the security of the United States, but was only voting for the resolution to show support for those that had just been sent into the line of fire, though he disagreed with the rationale that put them there.
Oct 11, '07
Don't you think if he didn't want to support the courage of Draft Dodger George Bush he could have either offered an amendment or just plain have voted no. I understand this was a dirty republican trick. But as a leader (perhaps not at that time) he should have been very ready to fight republican tricks.
Oct 11, '07
This is considered smearing Jeff Merkley with GOP talking points?
Sounded more like a campaign critique directed at Democrats regarding the effort to unseat Smith. Last I heard thats a healthy thing in primary elections.
hmmm...
Oct 11, '07
If he didn't want to support the courage of Draft Dodger George Bush he could have either offered an amendment or just plain have voted no. I understand this was a dirty republican trick.
Merkley couldn't offer an amendment; the Rs wouldn't allow any.
Yes it was one of those stupid dirty Republican tricks. And only a symbolic vote.
But listen to Novick and tell me if you think he'd vote for a stupid Republican measure or would stand up and say that's bu****it and vote no.
2:14 a.m.
Oct 12, '07
Personally I'm not all that fussed about Merkley's vote on the support-Bush-to-support-the-troops Javanese shadow puppet show, and I wish Steve Novick would give it up because its an arcane point now. However, it does seem that there was an option Merkley didn't take, which was not to vote at all, or to abstain. In fact, as minority leader he could have organized the Dem caucus to vote their own clean "support the troops" resolution as a caucus, and to abstain en masse or vote no, as they saw fit regarding the best way not to be drawn into the charade.
I really don't think Merkley will have too much trouble with this vote even if Smith tries to use it to rebut flip-flopping charges, though. Smith's are much more egregious and very recent. That's another reason why I wish Novick, whom I favor over Merkley, would hang it up on this and focus more on his strengths. If Smith goes after this vote, it will be a sign of desperation, and it doesn't look so different coming from Steve.
6:05 a.m.
Oct 12, '07
Chris Lowe: Oregon legislators do not have the option of abstaining or voting present. Ever.
And Merkley could not offer an amendment on the floor because bills are amended in committee--no one can amend a bill on the floor. And Merkley could not simply put forward a resolution of his own--unless Karen Minnis had decided to send it to the floor.
7:15 a.m.
Oct 12, '07
Thank you, Patton. Some knowledge of Oregon's legislative procedure goes a long way in this discussion.
Oct 13, '07
Novick was much more substantive than Merkeley. Merkeley mostly said Gordon Smith/George Bush multiple times. I want a candidate who tells me what he wants to do and what we should do, rather than someone who sounds like another empty suit looking to improve his resume.
Oct 15, '07
I met Mr Novick at the DPO Dinner & Auction in September 2007, he came over to me, looked me in the eye introduced himself, while reaching out to shake my hand. He told me who he is and stated he is running for a seat in the senate and asked me for my vote. Many times people run for office and you don't know who they are. I think that if you can approach a voter when time permits, look the voter in the eye, ask the voter for their vote, and tell the voter what you want to do to make a difference. We both discussed my concerns and he listened to me. Which made me feel as though I am a part of him, if only for a few moments. Well thats a person who deserves to get my support and vote. Also Thank you Bill for not forgetting me and sensding me this e-mail, the video helped me to see who is running and to hear their voice in concerns about why we should vote for either Merkley or Novick.
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