On October 24, Let's Draft Al Gore
Steve Novick
Can a doughty band of BlueOregonians, through a semi-guerilla action in October 2006, help determine the identity of the next President? I think we can. Smarter and more important people agree with me. And with your help, on October 24, we will throw some of the first pebbles that will start the avalanche that will convince Al Gore to run for President in 2008.
What’s October 24? That’s the date that Al Gore brings the latest in-person version of “An Inconvenient Truth” to the Rose Garden. The show starts at 8.
Who are the smart important people who agree that we should take advantage of this opportunity to call on Gore to run? So far, I can name State Superintendent of Public Instruction Susan Castillo, developer and civic leader John Russell, political consultant Mark Wiener, and BlueOregon’s own Leslie Carlson and Kari Chisholm. And soon, I hope, we will be able to say that hundreds of other BlueOregonians have authorized us to use their names as well ... either because you have commented on this blog to that effect, or have emailed me at cica (*at*) mindspring.com to say “use my name.” (Yes I know we should have a separate “draft Gore” web site and maybe we will soon, but I’ve been too incompetent to do that yet.)
What exactly are we going to do? Well, at a minimum we will put out a press release on October 24 (or maybe the day before) with a list of “Gore ‘08” supporters. My current thinking is that we should throw together some signs and do some marching around the entrance to the Rose Garden and yelling that evening, as well – if some of you are willing to help make signs and march around and yell.
Why might our actions make any difference? Because Gore, so far, does not seem inclined to run … but he is deeply committed to the cause of fighting global warming … and perhaps he can be persuaded that the best weapon against global warming is President Gore. Because Gore seems to be a man with a strong sense of duty … and perhaps a true, grass-roots “Draft Gore” effort will convince him he has a duty to run. And finally, because … well … don’t people like to be asked?
Why is Gore the best candidate? Well, I can speak only for myself; the motives of my co-conspirators are probably slightly different from person to person. But here is a smorgasboard of reasons, from the pragmatic to the sublime:
Do you think Hillary will have a hard time winning a general election? Well, who do you think has the stature and fund-raising potential to take the nomination from Hillary?
Do you think only a strongly anti-war candidate will be able to able to avoid the hopeless “for it and against it” quagmire of a position that John Kerry found himself in? Gore was against the war from Day 1.
Do you (as I do) find Hillary (electability aside) distasteful, partly because of her position on the war; love John Edwards (as I do); but think that (even if Edwards can beat Hillary) the American people will have a hard time electing someone without foreign policy experience to lead the so-called “War on Terror”? Gore has that experience, and the American people know it. Like Nixon in ’68, he is a reassuringly familiar figure in troubled times.
Do you believe that history repeats itself? Are you even remotely superstitious? In 1960, an incumbent Vice-President with a notably “stiff” public persona lost a close and possibly stolen election. In 1968, in the midst of an increasingly unpopular war, he came back to win.
Do you believe that global warming is the greatest threat human beings have ever faced? Then -- who but Al Gore should take the lead in facing down that threat?
Do you believe that Americans like the comeback, and sympathize with someone who wuz robbed?
Do you have a better idea?
Let’s do this thing. Let’s make it happen. Give us your names, give us your support, pledge us your lives, your fortunes, and your sacred honor.
On October 24, let’s draft Al Gore.
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8:49 p.m.
Oct 1, '06
Count me in.
Oct 1, '06
Do you have a better idea? Yes, Wes Clark.
Oct 1, '06
Count me in!
Oct 1, '06
has he improved his speaking skills since 2000 because he was pretty poor at it in 2000.
10:16 p.m.
Oct 1, '06
Like Nixon in ’68, he is a reassuringly familiar figure in troubled times.
Reality check here.
Oct 1, '06
I backed Wes Clark in 2004 (the candidate the Bushies most feared) but agree that Gore would be a compelling choice in 2008...he's come a LONG way from 2000. Assuming McCain is the R nominee, I'd go so far as to say I think only Gore or Clark has a real chance of winning the general election.
But do you really think Al will take on Hillary? I don't...and if she doesn't run, it will only energize the rest of the field. With Nevada and South Carolina featuring in the front-loaded nominating process along with NH and Iowa, can anybody run that table???
I don't know, but I think I like Clark's chances better this time around. So who's your number two when Al passes on the draft, Steve?
10:33 p.m.
Oct 1, '06
Gore...Lieberman? I may even have a few bumper stickers left from last time.
Do you believe that history repeats itself?...in 1968, in the midst of an increasingly unpopular war, (Nixon) came back to win.
That was because the Democratic Party establishment ran a candidate who supported that unjust, immoral and pointless war.
Do it again, and you'll see history repeat itself.
Oct 1, '06
If he receives the GOP nomination, does anyone see McCain losing?
Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Mark Warner, John Edwards, Wes Clark.......none of these people can beat McCain.
Sad but true.
Oct 1, '06
I'll be with the Democratic nominee.....but please let it not be Gore. The guy simply doesn't connect well with people ordinary folks. You can't win the White House with wonkish people skills...
11:14 p.m.
Oct 1, '06
That was because the Democratic Party establishment ran a candidate who supported that unjust, immoral and pointless war. Do it again, and you'll see history repeat itself.
Um, Frank? Al Gore was one of the first to oppose the war. He also endorsed Howard Dean when the entire establishment was lined up against him.
Oct 1, '06
Someone better make some bold moves. I for one would be tickled to draft someone with an eye to the big picture....someone with high intelligence, compassion & yes....humor. When did Gore get funny? Where was that last time around?
Lately all I see & here is senseless bickering about red and blue yard signs, showing us that even if nothing else has been accomplished in the past 6 years, the media has succeeded in giving us color-coded labels that stuck. All of us know deep down what the big problems are. Solve a couple of those, get some self esteem back. Instead we are petting the sweaty stuff.
Will we argue over mole-hills while we're rolling down mountains...until it is too late? SOMEBODY start something meaningful.
Gore? You betcha. A while back I thought Wesley Clark would be a good candidate....but these last few years have put me clear off anyone from the military.
11:28 p.m.
Oct 1, '06
As for using my name above... My mother thinks I'm smart, but I'm pretty sure I'm not important. Just another political hack.
Do I think Gore is the most compelling candidate our party has to offer? Yes. Do I think he's going to run? No. Do I think we can change his mind? Yes.
And the most important question... If Gore chooses not to run, can we win the presidency? You're damn right we can. There are quite a few folks that I believe can go all the way - including some who are planning a run, and many who are not.
My list includes (in alpha order): Senator Evan Bayh, General Wesley Clark, Senator John Edwards, Governor John Kitzhaber, Governor Bill Richardson, Governor Brian Schweitzer, Governor Kathleen Sibelius, and Governor Mark Warner.
Oct 1, '06
I'm on board!!
12:21 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
I'm all for Gore. He's so different than he was in 2008-- he seems much more relaxed when speaking in public, connects better with people, and is often times damned funny. I'd love to see him run again. I wonder if those few hundred balloons we have at the office say just Gore, or do they say Lieberman as well? ;)
I must say that Edwards is definitely not on my list. I had a run in with their campaign in 2004 that left a very bad taste in my mouth, and I don't know that I can ever support the man.
My list would include Gore and Richardson. I'm a big Deaner, but I'd like to see him continue building our party right now.
Oct 2, '06
Sorry, I supported Al Gore as far back as 1988. But he seems to speak better (give more rousing speeches) when he is NOT running for President than when he is.
It is time to give newer faces a chance, those who haven't run before or only once before: Dem. Gov. of your choice, Biden, Edwards, Wes Clark, some others.
We need a rousing debate in this country based on newer ideas. It will be an out and out open process in both parties because there is no heir apparent. Besides, I didn't like the way he treated Bill Bradley in 2000.
5:10 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
Um, Frank? Al Gore was one of the first to oppose the war.
"The removal of Saddam from power is a positive accomplishment in its own right for which THE PRESIDENT DESERVES CREDIT, just as he DESERVES CREDIT for removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan. But in the case of Iraq, we have suffered enormous collateral damage because of the MANNER in which the Administration went about the invasion. (Al Gore, August 7, 2003, remarks to Move-ON, emphasis mine.)
I think that's a little too nuanced to be called "opposed the war". Dontcha' think?
Look, I still have my Kerry poster in our front window. I think of it as a talisman...I want public proof that the jackass in the White House isn't my president. (And, hey, why not draft Kerry? I'm sure he's ready to report for duty again. And he's the only one situated to outspend the Republcians?)
I just don't think the same old, same old is going to create the energy the Dean campaign did. And that's what it's going to take to beat a McCain. Something really different, someone speaking CLEARLY and articulating a message that's understandable to the American people. Enough with the flip-flopping, mealy-mouthed, poll-driven, inching to the middle, trying to figure out what democrats stand for. And, frankly, Gore cut and run when he should have stayed in the fight for the presidency. He owed that to us; he owed that to us to not let this country be taken over by thugs...who he later "credits" for this insane war that's putting America at risk, killing our kids and National Guard, and not doing so much for the Iraqis either.
And, OK, I was being sorta snotty about the Gore-Lieberman thing...but it was Lieberman on the ticket, and we've seen how he turned out? Is the Democratic Party just going to be the Republican Party...only not so much? You ain't gonna stir up the masses with that one.
Oct 2, '06
Many of us have been working for a long time towards the same end.
Please sign Draft Gore's petition asking Gore to run in 2008. Almost 12,000 people already have.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/
And join our effort. Visit http://www.draftgore.com
Oct 2, '06
"Has Al Gore completely lost it? The former veep on Thursday used his time before an assembly of UN diplomats to warn them of the dire impact of cigarette-smoking on the environment."
I think Al has slipped over the edge; so, in a sense, he would be a candidate who is REALLY "different" and "unique" (sarcasm here). Unfortunately, I think the 2000 defeat was more than his psyche could bare. I think it would be a big mistake to retry Al in 2008.
Oct 2, '06
re-elect Al Gore
8:18 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
I'm incredulous. I just drove across the county and back. While the other driver was at the wheel I read local newpapers from small, mid and large cities...NONE of which even mentioned Gore as a candidate.
Whom ever started this draft Gore idea has seriously been duped! We need a dump Hillary campaign a heck of a lot more than a draft Gore campaign.
Our country is ready to leave Iraq. The only candidate who can do it with his diplomatic skills and return the military to its proper level, who can't be swiftboated, the candidate who appears not to owe special interests, or the inside beltway folks is Wes Clark.
Oct 2, '06
Al Gore is the most qualified person to be the president. His re-election is imperative for the state of affairs both nationally and internationally. He has shown wisdom and foresight in entire gamut of issues, be it technology, environment, investments, education or entertainment. He is the Swiss-Army-Knife of politics.
Oct 2, '06
I think that using his important movie to suit your own political agenda is disrespectful to him and his conviction on this issue. As Al Gore stated on Larry King, drafts do not happen anymore, especially in this current corrupted political environment where the majority of people are brainwashed by media and political soundbites. I think personally that it is time to move on and join him in this more important cause for our planet, and let the man think for himself regarding anything else he wishes to pursue in his life. The climate crisis is also not a political issue. Haven't you even been following his interviews? I notice you didn't even mention in this article what you plan to do to join in this most important fight to save our planet. Do you think perhaps that supercedes your selfish political desires at the moment?
What this world now faces is so much more crucial than the fervor to see a political bloodbath match between Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, which is really what this is all about. Just the same old political sound bite business as usual that Mr. Gore himself has stated is toxic and tomfoolery.
We only have a ten year window that assures us a sustainable planet. Al Gore knows what the stakes are as do some of us who really support him, and have faith that he knows what he is doing and is prescient enough to see the future and what it will look like if we continue on the present course. He is now doing great and important work on this and other issues FREELY and it really is sad to see so many who think holding up a sign for him to save them is the extent of the energy they can muster to help him in this cause and we cannot wait until 2008 to face.
Too bad Hillary Clinton wasn't a threat to so many in 2004, then maybe all of those who couldn't step up to the plate then to keep Bush out would have done so instead of abandoning this country and Constitution they all of a sudden quote for their political ends.
Bottomline: Mr. Gore is going to get more done on this issue of the climate crisis from out here as a FREE thinking and speaking man inspiring the grassroots on a GLOBAL scale than he could EVER get done from the confines of a corrupted, military/industrial complex, status quo, bought and sold, DIEBOLD vote counting, toxic beltway that already kicked him to the curb once and ignored his pleas on this issue for the last THIRTY YEARS. The fact that so many can't or won't see that just tells me that this issue that is most important now is just a political talking point to those who only now use it for their own political ends.
Al Gore knows what he needs and wants to do in his life now. I say, let him do it. And here's a novel concept, how about actually doing something to join him in that besides holding up a sign?
Oct 2, '06
Gore is good. I like Gore. He could beat McCain. Can he beat Hillary?
Hey, how about another Clinton/Gore team? Al has lots of VP experience, and Hillary would need a sharp, experienced VP.
Oct 2, '06
paulie's right. Al Gore got as close as he was going to get. The same Republicans who were completely indifferent towards John Kerry all HATE Hillary Clinton with a passion. Her entry into the race would ensure a 100 percent Republican turnout. That being said, Wes Clark has the resume to get it done. National security will continue to dominate the political debate for the immediate future, and the Democrats need a candidate who is credible on defense issues. There is no way any Republican would be able to claim that Clark is weak on defense. Some of the other people that have been mentioned here--like Gov. Richardson-would also make compelling candidates. But what the party needs the most are fresh faces, not the same guys you've run for the last two cycles.
Oct 2, '06
Is this right? Democrats think illegal immigration is NOT a problem but Global Warming is the biggest problem?
By all means nominate Gore and Global Warming as your banners to victory in '08.
Can't hardly wait!
9:41 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
Personally, I'm more in favor of Clark than I am of Gore. The next President is going to inherit a mess with our military and our reputation. Clark has the foreign policy and military expertise to rebuild.
I would certainly support Gore should he win the nomination, however. He's smart and he's grown alot in the last eight years.
When it comes to Hillary Clinton, I think a lot of people in the Dem establishment underestimate how much women (many of whom are on the left) dislike her. I have spoken with numerous women who share my feeling that she stayed with her husband after intense public humiliation in order to be next to power. If she'd do that, she'd do anything.
I recognize that wanting to be President means wanting to have power. But if you're willing to sell yourself out to that degree--you have no business having it.
9:43 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
HELP! Some of you have said arguably ambivalent things and for others I dont have your full name -- if I can use your name, please state your full name and say "yes, you can use it." Singh, Jenni, ERose, I need clarification from two of you and a full name from ERose ... THANKS!
10:15 a.m.
Oct 2, '06
We need a dump Hillary campaign a heck of a lot more than a draft Gore campaign.
Same thing, my friend. At least for now.
Oct 2, '06
Why do you think you need to draft him when he already has the connections, money, and ability to run whenever he feels like it? He obviously doesn't have the inclination to (frankly because it is obvious the man has a conscience and morals) and right now believes that what he is doing along with his investment firm and TV station is the right course for the longterm. Why do people then insist on harrassing the man? To then think you can take credit for "persuading him" for your own political self aggrandizement?
He refused a draft in 2004, so what makes you think he will actually accept one in a system he himself has called toxic? And really, after seeing how ALL of us in this country have betrayed this Constitution by allowing Bush to get as far as he has even now to the point of suspending Habeus Corpus, don't you all find it a bit arrogant to think you can just call on the man who warned us about all of this but was ignored even by his own Party to clean up OUR MESS just because all of sudden you all think it is "easier" to do so?
I think Mr. Gore hit the nail on the head. This political system as set up now is nothing but tomfoolery, and unless you all have a bigger plan to REALLY stand up and to make the status quo system in the beltway fall like the Tower of Mordor in Lord of The Rings, you are simply spinning your wheels.
Oct 2, '06
We need a dump Hillary campaign a heck of a lot more than a draft Gore campaign. ~~~~ Same thing, my friend. At least for now.
Ah, so you really are just using Mr. Gore? I thought as much.
Oct 2, '06
Carla said: I recognize that wanting to be President means wanting to have power. But if you're willing to sell yourself out to that degree--you have no business having it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SO true. And having the Presidency of this country means having to sell your soul. And that is something I do not believe Al Gore will do, and frankly, I respect him immensely for it.
Oct 2, '06
Why not draft someone who can actually win, AND whose shown that they're willing to fight back when Republicans steal their victories? Gore didn't show any ability to control the spin about him during of 2000 campaign--he never responded that he was living in a fantasy land where he invented the Internet, was the inspiration for Hollywood love stories, and could leap tall buildings in a single bound. Moreover, he knew he had won Florida, and he gave up. He's a quitter.
He also has the charisma of a turnip. Or did you forget? That tends to matter in a national election.
I'm holding out for Bill Richardson, a man who's shown he has what it takes to be top executive at the state level and for national bureuacracies (Dept. of Energy).
Oct 2, '06
Posted by: Singh T. Junior | Oct 2, 2006 8:19:03 AM
Al Gore is the most qualified person to be the president. His re-election is imperative for the state of affairs both nationally and internationally. He has shown wisdom and foresight in entire gamut of issues, be it technology, environment, investments, education or entertainment. He is the Swiss-Army-Knife of politics. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Same old sound bite speech...Then why wasn't his "reelection" imperative in 2004 to your website and others? Wasn't he good enough to fight for then? You think he is doing all of this now just to give political operatives fodder? How many more years will he be expected to give "Sherman" statements to appease everyone? 2012, 2016, 2020? You all really don't see the higher ideals he is fighting for now and how we all fit into that now, do you? You think he really is the kind of man who would sell himself out by using these issues? Especially when noone would stand to get for him what he won in 2000? Is this "draft" then really being done because people have a sincere reepect for the MAN, or because you think it pennance for the inability to stand up and support him when he and this country needed it the most? In my view, it is way too little, way too late.
Oct 2, '06
I not only support drafting Gore, I draft Novick to go to Iowa to help on the ground! Seems only fair...
Oct 2, '06
You can use my name... Gore needs to do something with all of the good will he is illiciting. Can he win? Sure, if he listens to whomever has been telling him what to do SINCE 2000.
Oct 2, '06
You can add my name to the list. After hearing him speak about a year ago in Portland, he went right back to the top of my list. Our country needs him!
2:33 p.m.
Oct 2, '06
Editor's Note: The DraftGore.com ad running on the sidebar is not related to Steve Novick's effort. (Other than that the authors of that site saw this post, and then put up an ad.)
Oct 2, '06
This is all very interesting, but if you think you can stop Hillary, try standing on the main line railroad track in Oregon City tonight when the Amtrak Coast Starlight is coming through at 75 miles per hour. Let me know tomorrow morning how that worked out for you. At this point I think my best opportunity as a left wing Democrat / Socialist is to advocate that Hillary choose a liberal running mate. I like C. Delores Tucker, a very well regarded African American woman with excellent credentials.
Al Gore had his moment and he blew it by trying to distance himself from Bill Clinton.
Time to move on, folks.
3:28 p.m.
Oct 2, '06
I honestly don't think that Hillary has a chance. She's one of those people that is either liked or hated, with few inbetween.
It would be interesting to see a Gore/Clark combo. Gore has the experience, having already been VP. Clark has great military experience. They could make quite the team.
Personally, I'd like to see the president and VP work together more as a team, complementing each other in strengths/weaknesses. While the president has the ultimate say on things, the VP can be heavily involved in the decision making.
Oct 2, '06
This was one of the weirdest "conversations" I've ever read on this blog. The comments suggesting we not "draft" Gore because we're using him for our own political purposes? Just strange. If he'd make a great president, and he's gotten better at relating to people, and he's championing a cause that we all agree with like global warming, why not draft him and encourage him to run? and have him represent us?
and, I'd love to see Hilary get a chance to run in the primary, too. It will be fantastic to have her out campaigning and speaking her mind. I think she'd make an incredible president. And, I think she could beat McCain, as could any of the people who have been mentioned here.
Oct 2, '06
Anyone who is updated on Al knows he is by far the best answer to most of our countrys problems. By all means anything that can help encourage Al to run is good. Once he is there people will quickly see why Al Gore is by far the best choice for 08. Thanks for your great work.. Talan
Oct 2, '06
Count me in! I really hope this works out.
Oct 2, '06
For those paying attention Al Gore was the best and is now even better. There is no one who would be a better President. Has anyone who does not agree listened to a speech he has given in the last 2 years. Believe it or not he has honesty, intelligence and charisma. My alternate pick would be John Kerry. I like Wes Clark but frankly I don't think he is all that qualified. A Cabinet position yes, but not on the Democratic ticket. Count me in for Al Gore!
11:24 p.m.
Oct 2, '06
Here's my take: In 2000, you heard a lot of "there's not difference between Gore and Bush" - and not just from Nader.
Today, folks understand that there certainly was a big difference - and to many Americans, the day that Gore won the popular vote and lost the election was the day that America went wrong.
To all those who argue that Gore can't win popular support, I'll simply point out that he did. He won the popular vote by a half million votes. Don't forget that.
11:56 p.m.
Oct 2, '06
Great post, Kari. I couldn't have said it better.
Oct 3, '06
I'd like for two things to happen, One: win by a statistically meaningful margin Two: Do it with somebody other than Hillary or Al
"Wait a minute you say," bullsnot, if you've got your panties in a knot over George II's abuse of the Bill of Rights, maybe you ought to take a look at what parts those two find optional. Oooohhh, not nice to demand principle from our annointed duo.
Al's got a nice gig, now, and is in a position to do little harm, why don't we leave him alone. As for Hillary, if you like Presidential asskickings, go right on ahead, I personally would like to win one.
Oct 3, '06
"You can use my name... Gore needs to do something with all of the good will he is illiciting. Can he win? Sure, if he listens to whomever has been telling him what to do SINCE 2000."
GORE needs to do something? How arrogant. HE IS DOING SOMETHING NOW, something VERY important to get US to take action to save our planet, only people here don't seem to care unless he does it the way they want it done, which actually in my view has turned him off to running. How soon before someone states that he needs to lose weight? Or change his hair? Or not wear black? Or talk a certain way? Or not to say this or that? Please, NOTHING has changed in how campaigns are run in this country (as he has eluded to many times in his speeches regarding Democracy which obviously not too many people even listened to,) and from the looks of all the "draft sites" that will now be competing to be "number one" with all those doing it because they are "auditioning" for attention instead of focusing on his vision, nothing has changed there either. And I know that for a fact because I was involved in Draft 2004 and I left it because all it was was an ego contest with people looking for attention and vying for positions. Nothing of real substance on issues was done. It was just a popularity contest. Look already how fast one site rushed to get an ad up here, because God forbid another one beat them to it. Same old thing as always. Not thinking of the man and his feelings, just to get him out there to whip Hillary Clinton's butt to say you won something.
If Mr. Gore wishes to run for any office, he will, and I can't believe how oblivious so many people are to the REALITY of this situation. Not ONE comment about the climate crisis that is indeed a "planetary emergency" that needs ALL of us to work on now has been posted here. And I will tell you this, the response to his call for action on this is defintely showing him who the people who care really are. Why haven't you all applied to learn his slideshow in Nashville if you support him so much? Seems to me like you still want him to do all the work while you take the credit. That is all a draft movement is to me, and I say, it is a waste of energy that could be put towards moving people ourselves to see the urgency of what we need to do now to mitigate the effects of climate change, which are real. We don't have until 2008 to do that. I don't know how many times people need to be told that before they truly see the urgency of this and where he is coming from.
There is also absolutely NO guarantee that Al Gore will win any election for President, and he knows that as well. That isn't because he isn't qualified to do so. That is because the real puppetmasters of this government will do all in their power to keep him out and to divert any talk from his work on this issue, and it will just be the same 30 second soundbite mudslinging rhetoric we always see, and we don't have time for that right now. Some things are more important than drafts and even presidential campaigns, especially ones like those run in this country. Such a shame so many don't seem to have the vision he has to understand that.
Oct 3, '06
Posted by: Kari Chisholm | Oct 2, 2006 11:24:25 PM
Here's my take: In 2000, you heard a lot of "there's not difference between Gore and Bush" - and not just from Nader.
Today, folks understand that there certainly was a big difference - and to many Americans, the day that Gore won the popular vote and lost the election was the day that America went wrong.
To all those who argue that Gore can't win popular support, I'll simply point out that he did. He won the popular vote by a half million votes. Don't forget that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then where were those millions when the USSC handed the election to Bush? Mr. Gore also won the electoral vote because Florida's electoral votes were unconstitutional. However, I didn't see those millions out in the streets for Mr. Gore or this Constitution then. My PAC even tried to do something about that decision by entreating Congress to remedy it by amendment or some other remedy, but we were called crackpots by other Gore groups for even attempting something, and we were ignored by members of Congress we contacted about it. That in and of itself spoke volumes to me about the people of this country and their representatives when it comes to caring about their Democracy and supporting someone. Think it would be any different now?
Many I talked to also claimed they voted for Al Gore because he was the "lesser of two evils", and many just vote straight partyline no matter whose name is on the ballot. Sad, but realistic. However, if as you claim here every single one of those millions who voted for Mr. Gore in 2000 did so because they support HIM and believe in HIM, then where again were those millions in 2004 in screaming for justice and for the man they believed in?
You see, that is why this all looks so political to me, and not from the heart. To me, if you believe in someone you stand up for them whether it is "popular" or not come hell or high water, not only when it is convenient to do so. Had Mr. Gore not made this important film, written his companion book, and made any speeches in the last few years how many would even care to "draft" him?
Is this then from the heart, or just for political expedience? It makes a difference. And in my view, if you had to TELL people there was a difference between Gore and Bush, then they didn't deserve Al Gore then, and they most certainly don't deserve him now. Especially the millions who voted for Bush in 2004, and probably would again despite their crimes, and those from both parties who have enabled them all these six years. Right now, we don't need a draft, what we need is an impeachment. Where's the support for that?
Oct 3, '06
Posted by: Jan | Oct 2, 2006 11:01:43 AM
Same old sound bite speech...Then why wasn't his "reelection" imperative in 2004 to your website and others? Wasn't he good enough to fight for then? You think he is doing all of this now just to give political operatives fodder? How many more years will he be expected to give "Sherman" statements to appease everyone? 2012, 2016, 2020? You all really don't see the higher ideals he is fighting for now and how we all fit into that now, do you? You think he really is the kind of man who would sell himself out by using these issues? Especially when noone would stand to get for him what he won in 2000? Is this "draft" then really being done because people have a sincere reepect for the MAN, or because you think it pennance for the inability to stand up and support him when he and this country needed it the most? In my view, it is way too little, way too late. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You could be more wrong, but it is hard to imagine how. Draft Gore movement has been alive since 2000. In 2002/3 an incredible attempt to draft was made by various groups and many human hours were spent in opening phone banks, printing newspaper ads, fund raising, and sending letters to representatives. Your comments are insensitive to those who have been working hard for years to bring about the change in the political course. Off course, when Al Gore decided to endorse Dr. Dean, the movement came to a temporary halt. Nevertheless, the spirit is still there and the cause is more urgent than ever.
Oct 3, '06
Hi, Singh. EM here. Good to see you in another context.
I agree with your comment that this call to action ignores previous Draft Gore movements. We did try with all our might to get Gore to run in '04. Unfortunately, for a number of reasons, he wasn't ready to jump back into the ring. 2008 may be a different story. We honestly don't know what he intends to do. There are those who believe that he will need to be asked, in which case Steve Novick's plan makes sense. There is already an active Draft Gore movement (draftgore.org, as well as draftgore.com, which, to the best of my knowledge, are two different sites). In addition there are sites such as ours (Al Gore Support Center: http://z8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support/index.php?act=idx and AlGore.org). There is also http://www.gorenet.org/portal/. I hope that Steve Novick has contacted these groups for help with his effort. We would do much better to all be working together on movements like this than striking out on our own.
I would suggest to Steve Novick that he contact all of the organizations I've listed above and any others I've missed. Urge people to sign on to this movement. It can start here. It has to start somewhere.
One word of caution, however: Back in the spring, when "An Inconvenient Truth" was being released across the country, I was part of a large movement to make the public aware of Gore as a viable candidate for '08. We encountered a lot of resistance at the time because people accused us of politicizing the movie and Gore's global warming message. I don't believe we were, but many see it that way. Just be aware that you may encounter similar resistance with this effort. However, we are getting closer and closer to the time when candidates will be announcing their intentions of '08. Gore must be made aware of how strong his support is. He needs to believe that if he runs, he could win. Think how horrible it would be in January '09 to say to ourselves: If only we had been able to all work together.
Let's show him we're ready to back him up if he will jump in the race.
2:03 p.m.
Oct 3, '06
EM -- can I have your actual name and email address? I will try to contact those groups. But a big paet of the idea here is to get a media hit on "draft Gore" in connection with his visit, which is something we can pull together short term. Thanks. On "politicizing," I obviously think that a major REASON for him to run for President is to be able to DO more about global warming, which ultimately will require political action by some President ... you know that; I wish everyone understood. Thanks a bunch - steve
Oct 3, '06
Presidents cannot take action on anything without a Congress willing to work with them (at least that's how it was before America became a Fascist country) and with an INFORMED citizenry, and we don't have either now as Congress has sold this country out and the American people just condoned TORTURE. Where is all of the outrage about our right to habeus corpus being taken? Do you have any idea what Bush and his henchmen can do now in two years time now that they have gotten what they wanted? No "draft" is going to knock that down. So we abandon our Constitution for the last six years and allow these usurpers to trash it, then cry foul and expect Al Gore to ride in on his white horse to save us as if WE are the victims? Again, this is not his mess to clean up, it is ours. ANYONE in this country can now be considered an "enemy combatant" or "hostile to U.S. interests." And make no mistake about it, these people have not exerted all of the time and energy they have to get this far to just give it all up. Again, we don't have until 2008 to stand up to these people.
Al Gore sees this and I believe will not run even if asked, and I say good for him. He can do more from out here now, but of course, people who long for something juicy to talk about regarding a Gore/Clinton match up don't seem to care about reality. For him to enter this system as it is now would serve him no good purpose. Matter of fact to be blunt, I actually would fear for his safety if he did. But funny how no one even touches on that aspect of it. It is as if none of you lived through the last six years, or even understand what we have allowed to take hold of our government since 2000.
However, tell me how you intend to get control of the media, the Congress, the voting machines, and the military before 2008 in order to secure that this country is not under martial law by then and elections are clean. As Al Gore stated in his speech this past January which noone seems to have listened to either, once Bush got the power he got with the "unitary executive" it literally gave him carte blance to do anything he wished... and he got that last Friday thanks to ALL of us. But let's not be worried about that and what will come in the next two years. Let's just live in our illusions that since 2000 when the election was subverted by the same people who STILL run it all and since the voting machine companies were bought by RWERS that count the votes that all will be just hunky dorry.
It's one thing to want to run a draft to not have to face what really needs to be done in this country now, but at least don't sugarcoat the reality of what we have allowed to take place in this country that has now made this Democracy unrecognizable.
And to the person who said my previous remarks were insensitive, you couldn't be more wrong. I worked with every group in 2004 as well and continued it after Mr. Gore endorsed Dean and was called a "crackpot" by the very people you work with now for doing so and got no cooperationn or "unity" from anyone else in any other group even though I reached out to them. So don't talk to me about being insensitive. The draft movement folded the day after Mr. Gore endorsed Dean without any word or warning to any of us. Therefore this time, I will wait to see what Mr. Gore does, and support his website and give donations straight to him should it come to that. Otherwise, I will continue to support his endeavors and not harass him about this, which after all of the times he said he has no plans to run is really what this is.
Oct 3, '06
http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2006/9/29/13625/1103
Al Gore is our environmental ambassador and can inspire a global grassroots effort for change beyond what even a president could do, free of the beltway rhetoric that stonewalled him for thirty years.
12:20 a.m.
Oct 4, '06
I agree with Zak above that Bill Richarson looks like a great candidate right now.
I'm done voting for northeastern senators and pseudo-conservative southern democrats. Gore would be great if he was more charismatic and had the courage to run on his true beliefs and convictions in the heat of an election campaign. But he doesn't.
We need to elect a Western Democrat like Bill Richardson to the White House.
Oct 4, '06
Hi, Steve. EM here. Sorry, I didn't mean to be elusive. Yes, you can use my full name in your petition: Karen Wunderman. And if you want to contact me: [email protected].
I would strongly urge you to post at all the major Gore sites, most of which I tried to cover in my original post.
Let me know if I can be of help in your endeavor. Anything to get Al Gore in the White House.
Oct 4, '06
Also, I'll post your letter about drafting Gore at AlGore.org (it's already been posted at the Gore Support Center, which is how I found you).
I'd also recommend posting at DU, MoveOn.org, and other Gore-friendly sites (the Sierra Club and other environmental groups?). You need to get word out to as many blogs as you can so you can get a maximum number of "signatures." It won't be an easy job, but if you can enlist the help of people at each of these sites, you might find yourself in the middle of something big.
Good luck, and I'll do what I can.
Oct 4, '06
Gore/Clark 08
Oct 4, '06
As a Constitutional conservative I would LOOOOVE to see algore on the ballot! Get Hillary on there with him!
It would flat make my day.
Oct 5, '06
You know, another way to build political power and credibility would be to organize GOTV efforts this year – get supporters of your favorite Presidential pick to show up at the phone banks and canvasses, and sign in as having been recruited by "Draft Gore 08", for example.
It would certainly get attention from Party folks and coordinated campaign staff around the country if people started showing up now with a Presidential name attached.
And for your convenience, you can sign up to phone-bank or canvass by going to http://www.multdems.org/take_action - or by calling 503-248-0826.
(As an aside: bloggers phone-bank night is October 19. Come in to turn ones and zeros into 1s and 2s.)
Oct 6, '06
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/10/prweb446712.htm
Patriots For Al Gore UN Effort Announcement
Download this press release as an Adobe PDF document.
Patriots for Al Gore, a Federal PAC advocating for our environment, civil liberties and positive social change, requests that the United Nations establish the post of UN Global Environmental Ambassador, and to consider our recommendation that the Honorable Al Gore Jr. be the first to serve in this post.
Auburn, IL (PRWEB) October 6, 2006 -- Patriots for Al Gore, a Federal PAC advocating for our environment, civil liberties and positive social change, announces it’s effort to request that the United Nations establish the post of UN Global Environmental Ambassador, and to consider our recommendation that the Honorable Al Gore Jr. be the first to serve in this post.
Patriots for Al Gore sees the urgency of the climate crisis, the repercussions of which are being felt in many parts of the world, predominantly Asia, Africa, Australia and the Arctic. We request the creation of a UN Global Environmental Ambassador post that would provide the leadership qualities and experience necessary to bring leaders together on a global scale regarding this issue.
The right person in this post could inspire a global grassroots movement to bring about the visionary changes that will be necessary in the moral, spiritual, scientific, technological, political and economic spheres to effect the expedient changes that are necessary on a global scale in order to avoid reaching the tipping point that scientists have warned us about. We believe the best candidate for this position is the Honorable Al Gore Jr. whose knowledge, experience, conviction and inspiration regarding this issue are well established.
Our effort will be ongoing and will consist of letter campaigns, petitions and other outreach efforts with the United Nations over the course of the next year. All interested in supporting this effort can fax and or write to the following:
To fax the office of Public Inquiry at the UN: (212) 963-4475.
Or write to: Public Inquiries United Nations GA-57 New York, N.Y. 10017
For updated information about this effort, access our website.
<h3></h3>Oct 6, '06
It would be interesting to see what kind of poll numbers Al Gore would generate vs. Giuliani or Colin Powell. I think Jeb Bush could even beat Gore: THREEPEAT DYNASTY!
Oct 6, '06
I actually campained against Gore in 2000. I just saw him as the ridiculously robotic stiff, who had no real connection to the people. But he has changed in the last six years. I think that if he wants it, the nomination is his. After six years of religious consevatives running every branch of our government, it is time for a change. Our enviroment is going deeper and deeper into the shitter, the rich are getting richer while the poor are getting homeless, our country is hated by most of the world, and more and more laws are being passed by the Republican majority that restrict our freedom in the name of Security. I cannot promise victory. I cannot promise that things will suddenly get better the day he takes office if elected, but all I can promise is a change in the direction America is going. So, if you want another four years of illegal spying on citizens, four more years of the fat cats in D.C.deciding our laws, another four years of legislation by divine intervention, then vote for someone like Frist or Gingrich. But if you want our great country to finally stand up and work to make a society that helps the troubled rather than condemning them, a country that can actually fight terrorism not by guns but by educating the masses and feeding the poor, and a country that you can be proud of again, then get out there and DRAFT GORE FOR 2008!
-Shawn Williams Sevierville, Tennessee
Oct 7, '06
I voted for Nadar, but next time Al will get my Vote.
Al Gore 2008
Oct 7, '06
Go Gore!
Oct 7, '06
Run Gore, Run.
PLEASE! President Giuliani will make you Secretary of the Interior. Promise.
Oct 8, '06
Please nominate Guiliani
9/11 questions will wiz around till the corrupt empire collapes.
Oct 13, '06
Al Gore didn't change and I really hate that sound bite. He has always been the visionary prescient man he is today. It is because he is not part of the stinking, corrupt, toxic, BS Beltway system that he is now free to be who he has always been... and you all still aren't happy with it. I find it arrogant to the extreme to say it is his duty to run now after we all sat out the last six years allowing Bush to gain all the power he has.
Where were you Mr. Novick in 2004 with your "it is your duty" speeches? What then is YOUR duty? To sit and write ultimatums on forums, or actually to get up and do something yourself to make positive changes in this world? It is so easy to sit on the other side of a modem telling people what they should do without really knowing their heart and soul. Did you go through 2000? Are you that naive regarding the political system and how MONEY and buttkissing (and having friends at DIEBOLD) are really what buys the office now?
I really believe that Mr. Gore was right... it just wasn't meant to be, and that in his case is a good thing because frankly, he is too good of a man to go back and be corrupted again, or worse, kicked to the curb again. I believe fate now has something much more fulfilling and great for him, which translates into good things happening for our world.
Unfortunately, no one I read on these blogs who constantly cries for him to run for office out of some Party allegiance writes anything regarding actually stepping up to the plate to work with him on this climate crisis issue now. I simply cannot believe how blind people are and the tunnelvision they have. We have in our midst a person in the name of Al Gore who IS leading on THE issue of our time, who served his country well for over a quarter of a century, and it still isn't good enough!
The man has stated numerous times that he has no plans or intentions of running for President. He has also claimed many times that he has been there, done that, and is now enjoying the work he is doing, more than likely because it is rewarding work that will truly change this world for the better if we do OUR part. he ismore Presidential in his actions now than he could ever hope to be getting involved again with the vultures of Washington DC who in my view would do all in their power to take all hehas gained these last years away from him. The power of the people once empowered is what Democracy is all about, and he has a firm grasp on that concept. I say, allow him to follow his heart through this, and leave the man alone.
Oct 16, '06
Well, Jan has some interesting points, but even Al Gore has said recently that one could have the greatest impact on helping the envirnoment from the white house. This was in response to being asked if he would run in 2008. And he made it clear that he hasn't ruled it out.
So in response to that, and other earlier indications that he still hasn't ruled out the possibility, I have created a website called WWW.SUPPORTGORE.ORG that is dedicated to inspiring Al Gore to do just that: To run for president in 2008. My goal is to get 65,000,000 American citizens to make the pledge that if Al Gore runs in 2008, then we will vote for him.
To all of you reading this who have been impressed by all of the changes Al has gone through since the 2000 elections, and would like to see him run again, please go to my site and pledge your vote. And if you can't vote, pledge your support. I want all voices to be heard across the world!
And Steve, I think it is awesome what you have planned to do. I may very well see you down there. (And I hope you will tell everybody you know about my website and encourage them to pledge their vote.)
Peace.
Oct 16, '06
Hi Oregon! I'm here from the DraftGore.org site because Earthmother is spreading the word.
I'm ALL in!! (with a royal flush)
Lemme tell y'all sumthin'. Gore will win his home state THIS time!!! Git on board and help convince HIM.
Oct 18, '06
losers will soon your lesson... al gore will never be drafted...
Oct 19, '06
While Jan Moore Vampire get cancer in her brain and become mentaly retarded then be born as the Hell keeper at the semetry , the rest of the witches and bastards are destroyed and burn in hell forever, the creator and the destroyer Lord Shiva dance on the Top of the burning Fire of Hell. Shiva's son give new life to the New World. No Al gore will never be Drafted... Son of Shiva make him run and win in 2008.
Oct 19, '06
Whle I think Steve's intentions are good, I think it's at least a year or more TOO early. The pro Bush mainstream media will chew Al Gore to shreds if he gives any inkling of his plans before the last possible moment. Forcing Al Gore to make any public comment at this TOO early stage could be a recipe for disaster. Furthermore, Al Gore is no Nixon. Nixon didn't get the most votes in 1960 and that's why he lost. In contrast, Al Gore did get the most votes both nationally and in Florida in 2000. Al Gore's victory in 2000 was ilegally stolen by Bush the thief. The facts prove that Al Gore did all he could to save democracy in America in 2000. What was he supposed to do, start a civil war? He sure had NO support from the leadership of the democratic party. I would like to know where people like Zak were in 2000 when Bush was stealing Al Gore's victory? I would further urge people to read the only documentation of the mainstream media's war against Gore that can be found at wwww.dailyhowler.com. Despite having everyone and everything against him, Al Gore is still the rightful winner of the 2000 election. He was also actually the first big name to oppose the illegal war in Iraq and did so with his speech in San Francisco in September 2002. He's been the only big name to consitently speak out about the Iraq disaster and the rest of Bush the thiefs bad policies. Anyone who would claim otherwise hasn't read the speeches he's given. Al Gore is the only democrat at the national level to stand up to Bush the thief which is a sharp contrast to the democratic cowards in Congress. While I admire Wesley Clark's military service, he doesn't have the years of experience or the stature of Al Gore on a wide range of issues. No one else does. I'm amazed that Jan is so opposed to Al Gore running in 2008 even those he's the only person with the experience stature and a clue about how to get us out of this Bush disaster and yet she offers no name of who she thinks should run in Al Gore's place. There isn't anyone but Al Gore for 2008. There's no better bully pulpit than the White House but Jan fails to understand this. The very survival of humanity depends on what happens in 2008. We mst have the best person and that's Al Gore. In the meantime, we shouldn't do anything to harm that which is what a TOO early draft would do.
Oct 19, '06
Whle I think Steve's intentions are good, I think it's at least a year or more TOO early. The pro Bush mainstream media will chew Al Gore to shreds if he gives any inkling of his plans before the last possible moment. Forcing Al Gore to make any public comment at this TOO early stage could be a recipe for disaster. Furthermore, Al Gore is no Nixon. Nixon didn't get the most votes in 1960 and that's why he lost. In contrast, Al Gore did get the most votes both nationally and in Florida in 2000. Al Gore's victory in 2000 was ilegally stolen by Bush the thief. The facts prove that Al Gore did all he could to save democracy in America in 2000. What was he supposed to do, start a civil war? He sure had NO support from the leadership of the democratic party. I would like to know where people like Zak were in 2000 when Bush was stealing Al Gore's victory? I would further urge people to read the only documentation of the mainstream media's war against Gore that can be found at wwww.dailyhowler.com. Despite having everyone and everything against him, Al Gore is still the rightful winner of the 2000 election. He was also actually the first big name to oppose the illegal war in Iraq and did so with his speech in San Francisco in September 2002. He's been the only big name to consitently speak out about the Iraq disaster and the rest of Bush the thiefs bad policies. Anyone who would claim otherwise hasn't read the speeches he's given. Al Gore is the only democrat at the national level to stand up to Bush the thief which is a sharp contrast to the democratic cowards in Congress. While I admire Wesley Clark's military service, he doesn't have the years of experience or the stature of Al Gore on a wide range of issues. No one else does. I'm amazed that Jan is so opposed to Al Gore running in 2008 even those he's the only person with the experience stature and a clue about how to get us out of this Bush disaster and yet she offers no name of who she thinks should run in Al Gore's place. There isn't anyone but Al Gore for 2008. There's no better bully pulpit than the White House but Jan fails to understand this. The very survival of humanity depends on what happens in 2008. We mst have the best person and that's Al Gore. In the meantime, we shouldn't do anything to harm that which is what a TOO early draft would do.
Oct 21, '06
I did sign but it kept saying my email was invalid? Better check that there is not a bug planted here.
Oct 21, '06
To GoAl, I understand your concern, I was torn apart with the same decision.
I believe in the statement “Gore won't run unless he believes he has the support to win”, .But, you offer a good solution; it is up to us to make all the noise we possible can, and his choice to remain aloof as long as it is politically safe for him.
I just finished seeing the movie “the Man of the Year, by Robin Williams got home and run to this site, this movie is a call for truth and honesty that everyone is yearning so much… I feel this movie has broken the fears and has renewed my inspiration!!! I recommend to see it.
We all want Al Gore to be our President!!! In my family have a say “what is going to happen, if is meant—will happen. I just want to invite you all to DC for the celebration…
Oct 23, '06
I posted this on the troll message...wanted it here. O well.
Folks,
Well I will see you all tomorrow at Gore's get together to save the planet. I went and saw his movie the other night. Some interesting stuff but way too much us versus them mentality.
Anyone ever wonder what Gore was doing in Florida of all places when that is where the whole thing went down? Then he acted like he did? The whole thing was planned from the beginning.
Anyway I am conservative as they come. In the posts to come I am sure this will all come out. I am not interested in setting up Laws to keep your actions in check. At this stage of the game I think it is counter productive to what I am called to accomplish.
On the back of my car I have: "Christians Change Hearts Not Laws" "Be not conformed to this world" Romans 12:2"
Is there any point for a Christian to force someone to adhere to the way they think God wants them to live? Aren't we called to win souls not political elections?
If we are able to have a logical exchange here I will feel blessed. I have to admit with most of the people that I meet at the venues that I go to most of what I get are a lot of fingers and cussing.
Did you know the word Jesus causes so much hate? So far have we fallen....
If you Love the Planet (I do!) Love the Creator. (Romans 1)
And one question for all you who have seen Gore's presentation or the movie. He makes the Joke about the continents being connected (In a time long long ago...) well they still are connected Al...anyway he shows the carbon and temperture graphs in sync with each other right up until our time now when carbon goes off the chart so to speak. Every peak and dip is matched up until that point but now the heat does not match like it did before...what is the deal? If the graphs continued their pattern we would be boiling.
Peace be with you,
Bill
Oct 24, '06
I still believe it is not only too early for this and actually unneccesary since I am sure Mr. Gore knows quite well what he needs and wants to do with his life, it is also downright RUDE to interrupt a presentation Mr. Gore is giving on a topic he is so dedicated to and sincere about in order to interject your own selfish Party agenda. Especially when this issue is not a partisan political issue. It also puts him in an uncomfortable position, especially since he has repeatedly stated he has no plans to run for President (but is involved in politics as he said he would be,) and that he is enjoying what he is doing now.
Too bad people can't go there and hold up signs stating that they support him and stand behind him in solving this crisis NOW and are willing to work on that NOW. That they are taking action on it NOW in their own lives. That they understand the urgency of it NOW which would show that people actually care, and are not just going to these presentations to gawk at him and harass him. But no, all we get is the same old political schtick. No wonder he doesn't want to run.
Oct 24, '06
To GoAlGo;
Mr. Gore himself has stated that the political system is toxic and tomfoolery, and has also stated, "been there, done that" regarding running for President in this country, which is an office that actually doesn't hold the respect it once did for me. I frankly believe he has found a higher calling... And that is OK with me, because I support the MAN he is and not just political hype that seems to be so much more "exciting" to so many out here, and have faith in him that the good work he is now doing throughout the world now will bring about the much needed GLOBAL movement we need to see in getting PEOPLE involved in solving this crisis instead of just pining for him to "save them."
If you could do more inside political office regarding this issue it would have been done by now. He only got ONE senator to go with Kyoto and that was Paul Wellstone. He can get more done out here on this issue now because he has the business clout he needs to influence the leaders of other businesses as far as sustainable investment. He has the TV station to raise awareness and get people involved in the Democratic process. He can now also travel the world unconstrained whenever and whereever he wants or is needed devoting his life to the one issue that has been his heart since before he got involved in politics... And we are already seeing results. In other words, he can be that environmental ambassador we need right now to bring awareness, inspiration, counsel, action, and hope to people throughout this world regarding a crisis that effects our very existence as a species. Personally, I think that's pretty damned important.
In politics this issue would ony get pushed back again and that is a foregone conclusion. You tell me as President with this "war on terror" and all the other BS going down now that he could devote as much time on this as he is now. He doesn't deserve to have to do that and give up all he has built up and waited years to do while not being under anyone's thumb and having to deal with the expectations. Over twenty five years of his life he spent in "politics" trying to get something done on this and was ignored. And yet people think he can do more back in that cesspool? He has already done more OUT HERE in the last six months than he could EVER have accomplished in that screwed up Congress, and that includes Democrats there who to this day I don't see talking much about this crisis. Unfortunately however, no one seems to be following that work of his, or they wouldn't keep asking me why I think he can do more out here. That just proves the point that this is only political to so many, and that really in a way is sad.
Martin Luther King Jr. also got more done out here for social causes and civil rights as well, and he never ran for President and was still a great man who will always be remembered for the man he was and how his actions changed history. Al Gore is also such a man, and frankly, going back to the BS of Washington DC now will only once again in my mind diminish the true importance of an issue that has been ignored by "politics" for way too long. And if he wanted it, it was there for the taking in 2004 when we really needed this to be discussed. But you see how much time was spent in politics talking about it then, right? You see how many were calling for him then because the climate crisis was so important to them then.
Again, are people "in politics" truly concerned about the issue of the climate crisis now, or only using it as a sound bite to get him to run as a diversion just because they want someone to come up against Hillary Clinton to give them the "grudge match" they need to give them something to talk about? I'm not into that kind of politics, and I don't think he is either. And from what I see, it ain't about to change drastically enough in the next year where conditions in this toxic system would be good enough for a man of his caliber to even have a fighting chance, especially in regards to spending time on this issue. I believe he has found a higher calling and I stand with him on it, and think it is now OUR turn to do something. I sure wish others would as well now, because we don't have much time to turn this around.
Oct 24, '06
Posted by: leftofcheneyisnotleft | Oct 23, 2006 5:17:15 PM
From: http://www.counterpunch.org/frank05312006.html
Perhaps Al Gore's greatest blunder during his years as vice president was his allegiance to the conservative Democratic Leadership Council and their erroneous approach to environmental policy. Gore, like Clinton who quipped that "the invisible hand has a green thumb", extolled a free-market attitude toward environmental issues. "Since the mid-1980s Gore has argued with increasing stridency that the bracing forces of market capitalism are potent curatives for the ecological entropy now bearing down on the global environment," writes Jeffrey St. Clair in Been Brown So Long It Looked Like Green to Me: The Politics of Nature. "He is a passionate disciple of the gospel of efficiency, suffused with an inchoate technopilia."
NAFTA allowed existing environmental laws in the United States to be undermined. Corporations looking to turn a profit by skating around enviro statutes at home moved down to Mexico where environmental standards and regulatory enforcement were scarce.
Gore and Clinton capitulated to the demands of Western Democrats and yanked from its initial budget proposals a call to reform grazing, mining, and timber practices on federal lands. When Clinton convened a timber summit in Portland, Oregon, in April 1994, the conference was, as one might expect, dominated by logging interests. Predictably, the summit gave way to a plan to restart clear-cutting in the ancient forests of the Pacific Northwest for the first time in three years, giving the timber industry its get rich wish. Gore, again, said nothing.
The Clinton administration's Salvage Rider, known to radical environmentalists as the "Logging without Laws" rider, was perhaps the most gruesome legislation ever enacted under the pretext of preserving ecosystem health. Like Bush's "Healthy Forests" plan, Clinton's act was choc full of deception and special interest pandering.
Around the same time Clinton and Gore, after great pressure from the food industry, signed away the Delaney Clause, which prohibited cancer-causing pesticides and ingredients to be placed in our food products. And after pressure from big corporations like chemical giant DuPont, the Clinton administration, with guidance from Gore's office, cut numerous deals over the pesticide Methyl Bromide despite its reported effects of contributing to Ozone depletion.
As for Gore's pet project, global warming, he did little to help curb its dramatic effects while handling Clinton's enviro policies. In fact, Gore and Clinton made it easy for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to back out of the Kyoto Protocol by undermining the agreement in the late 1990s. "Signing the Protocol, while an important step forward, imposes no obligations on the United States. The Protocol becomes binding only with the advice and consent of the US Senate," Gore said at the time. "As we have said before, we will not submit the Protocol for ratification without the meaningful participation of key developing countries in efforts to address climate change." Sadly, Gore stood by his promise.
So while Al Gore flies a polluting jet around the country and overseas to preach to the masses about the dangerous effects of global warming and its inherent threat to life on Earth -- you may want to ask yourself whether the hypocritical Gores of the world are more a part of the problem than a solution to the dire climate that surrounds us all.
Oct 24, '06
Start Quote In politics this issue would ony get pushed back again and that is a foregone conclusion. You tell me as President with this "war on terror" and all the other BS going down now that he could devote as much time on this as he is now. He doesn't deserve to have to do that and give up all he has built up and waited years to do while not being under anyone's thumb and having to deal with the expectations. End Quote
In his movie Mr. Gore complains about Politicians simply giving attention to their constituents concerns and nothing else. If Mr. Gore ran for office it would be more of the same. The people that want a viable Democrat to run would use the Green issue to get him in there, then he would get stuck in the same old back scratching quagmire he was in before.
Peace be with you, Bill
Oct 24, '06
I have every confidence that on January 20th, 2009 the attention of the entire world will be focused on the gleaming granite steps of our Capitol Building as Albert Gore Jr. take the Oath of Office from Justice Roberts. It will mark the beginning of an American redemption, an awakening of something we once called "hope", it will signal to the rest of the World that America is coming back, that we can be believed again, that we can be believed in again, as well...
I think it poetic, that the man cheated in 2000, ridiculed and berated as stiff, distant and "poll driven" has emerged as the only Democrat of stature to have the courage to stand fully against this criminal enterprise we call the Bush Administration.
He will face a Herculean task, for the stables are not only full of excrement but somebody sold the horses to some shady gamblers and the feedbag is not only empty but the seed corn is gone as well. No other American, eligible for the Office, is as well equipped to deal with it…
The Election of 2008 will be like none we have ever witnessed, at least recently. Al Gore will emerge as the consensus candidate in 2008, and by consensus I mean just that. He will be nominated by acclimation on the first ballot after being endorsed by all his potential opponents, including a much relieved HRC.
The poetic symmetry of Al Gore being elected President to clean up the mess created by the man who was appointed President by the Supreme Court in the wake of the theft of Florida is compelling.
The fact of life that bothers Republicans even more is the demonstrated ability of the netroots to jump start a Presidential campaign and the expressed desire of a large number of us to do so for Al Gore. Combined with Gore’s positions on the Iraq War and the illegal expansion of the Executive’s power, the spotlight on the looming environmental crisis creates an agenda based on moral imperatives, right versus wrong, rather than right versus left.
Any contest fought on this higher moral plane, as opposed to such pressing issues as flag burning, the preservation of the assets of the very wealthy and the protection of marriage from the onslaught of gate crashing homosexuals will result in a Republican rout, and most of them know it.
Everybody except Denny Hassert, apparently…
Now I know that all the snarkers and kneekickers out there are probably oiling up the old keyboards to denounce my little bit of poetry…and I know it sounds like a pipe dream, sounds implausible… yada, yada…But considering the course of events over the last several years and the real urgency of our situation, it doesn’t sound as kooky as electing Newt Gingrich or Bill Frist, ideas that the mainstream media finds completely plausible. Why even the elevation of a third Bush, Jeb, to the purple is not beyond their consideration, wasting considerable paper and ink over the last few months.
So…consider where we were on Halloween night 2000 and where we are now and then tell me it can’t happen…
RGJ/Dallas112263
Al Gore will be elected in 2008 Not because he is running But because he is LEADING!
Oct 24, '06
Bill;
Thank you. Mr. Gore knows full well how this system works after being a part of it for so long. I would dare say he knows better than any of us. He is also well aware of the lack of serious debate in this country based on reason and the politics of fear and media controlled propaganda that really runs it. He has also stated many times that it has been BOTH Parties which have abdicated their duties and the oaths they swore to uphold. I suppose that just doesn't click with some people who seem determined to dismiss discussing that seriously in order to spread political speculation for whatever reason, rather than actually reading the man's own words.
I agree with him about this process being toxic, tomfoolery, and as we all know, criminal. I then don't want him involved in such a process where he would then be forced to conform to it in order to "win" any election for president in this country and then be beholding to the powerbrokers. And really, the powerbrokers already took one from him and us. Do people really believe a good man like him would actually be given such corrupt power? Let's be real here.
I also think he is too good of a man to have to deal once again with all of the mudslinging, character assasination, thirty second soundbite BS that would come down... and it would come down, because "political" campaigns in this country are not about ideas and appreciating people of vision, but about insults and "buying" votes. And again most certainly, any "political" campaign would not be about the future, but about the past. Already I see sites and people pulling out the old talking points and once again debating them instead of looking to the future.
As he has stated, his campaign now is to change the minds of the American people on the issue of the climate crisis and to actually begin a Democratic dialogue again in this country, and it is a CRUCIAL campaign that unfortunately doesn't get as much support as the political hype around it which I believe detracts from the importance of the message he is trying to bring out. He wishes to empower people to take it upon themselves to take action regarding the climate crisis and the Democracy crisis which is inextricably linked to it. His is a mission that in my view is greater than just one president, for his mission can spark not only action on all levels in this country, but globally. Even his slideshow training is going to Australia. Does anyone however, even care?
The political system in this country is broken, and standing with a Draft Gore sign now while that ten year year closes more every day is not going to fix it. To me the issue is more important now than the political hype and I want to work on that with him. Mr. Gore is also making progress now outside the confines of the beltway. Why can't people understand the importance of that and allow this man to follow his heart?