Turns out, Darth Vader is a woman.
Kari Chisholm
Is it just me, or is the dominatrix look not quite the image we want to project around the world?
Over at the Washington Post, they're calling it "sexy", "swashbuckling", and "foreboding".
I think it's just creepy.
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Feb 25, '05
I find it oddly arousing. Not sure that's the feeling I want from the Secretary of State. Somehow I never had the same feeling from Powell, though he was handsome in uniform!
12:24 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
Kari,
What's the link for the picture. Need to add it to my FemDom files......
Feb 25, '05
The irony is -- on her -- its all still submission disguised as power.
The jacket is too retro-Beatles-ala-Sgt-Pepper's-Lonely-Hearts-Club-Band / Yellow-Submarine -- which is sorta ironic too
Feb 25, '05
She looks like one of Sauron's Nazgul.
Feb 25, '05
It's a lot better than Condi's usual wardrobe. Needs fishnets and a leather mask, though.
Feb 25, '05
As my mother would say: Egads!
1:22 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
To quote Wonkette's take on the look: "So hot...so evil."
Feb 25, '05
As I posted on my blog:
Set up the following scene in your mind:
March 2009: Condi Rice, the President of the United States, visits with Euro-PEON leaders of France, Germany, Spain.
She STRIDES into the hall dressed completely in black: short, TIGHT skirt, high heeled black patent leather boots, push up bra, long black trench-like coat flowing open behind her.
She slaps her hands down on the table and all the Euro-PEON presidents and ministers proceed to piss their pants in fear.
The MSM, now run by the blogging “pajama-hadin”, capture the ever increasing wet spots in their trousers and subsequent leakage onto floor. The images are transmitted all over the world. In shame, the “leaders” of France, Germany and Spain turn over all control of their countries to the US.
Our military march into their capitals and makes all their men enroll in “masculinity” courses.
Isn’t that a lovely vision?
Feb 25, '05
She's a strong, intellegent, attractive woman - whether you agree with her politics or not. I'm disappointed that this site would feature so many people apparently threatened by that.
Of course, if you're simply trying to be funny, I just didn't get it.
Feb 25, '05
When sending a trackback or three, it's customary to put a link in the post in question, as I did with your post (in an update). Thanks.
Feb 25, '05
So let me see if I have this right. You're saying that women in genuine positions of power should be judged by what they wear?
Feb 25, '05
I hate Condi and all she stands for, but I have to say, I like the new digs.
And I agree with Mike . . . why are we talking about this?
Feb 25, '05
Aw, c'mon now, Karl. Be a good sport. Blue state notwithstanding, if you're going to ping me, at least link to me so your loyal readers have some context here. Click on my name and scroll down to... well, you'll see it.
2:22 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
Jay, Mike... Yeah, she's a "strong, intelligent, attractive woman". It's her choice of clothing that's creepy.
2:23 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
Greg... feel free to throw a trackback our way. That's the way this works.
2:48 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
For whatever it's worth, it's not unusual for me to get trackback pings from this site to mine without the BO post in question having any links to me in it.
In other words, whoever is doing that is just trying to get free press for their post, without the reciprocity.
2:49 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
Hey now. We're not dissing Condi for the clothes. Some here seem to find them "creepy" but everytime I look at that picture I get this wonderful mental image of one of those boot heels........
Condi-dissing territory is a target rich environment. This is about slinky attire, and dang it, seems like the authoritarians always have the coolest stuff!!
As ZZ Top put it years ago in Enjoy and Get it On:
Could I get some pie ala mode When I come in off the road Do she still have her fightin' gear Just one look is gonna make it clear If she would enjoy baby Really enjoyed gettin' it on
Feb 25, '05
"It's her choice of clothing that's creepy."
And her choice of clothing is relevant how? And you've blogged about Colin Powell's choice of clothing how many times?
Despite this being the blogosphere & a Friday, I fail to see how this is newsworthy in the least.
3:09 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
Greg, Bix, this is off-topic, but I'm going to address it right here.
A trackback is a way of continuing the discussion, a way of saying "hey, we're talking about the same topic over here." It is not a requirement that you actually have a link back to the site. In the case of this Condi post - we're linking to the same Washington Post article.
Don't believe me? Read the first three paragraphs of Movable Type's Beginner's Guide to TrackBack. Here's the first sentence... In a nutshell, TrackBack was designed to provide a method of notification between websites: it is a method of person A saying to person B, "This is something you may be interested in."
3:13 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
In practice, however, trackbacks normally are used as a way of automating the process of letting a blogger know that you're referencing them.
Otherwise, it's little more than a mutation of referer spam.
3:16 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
And yeah ok, off-topic, but it's not like blogs have a general discussion area. You left out the next part of that guide:
The point of that first dynamic is to contribute to the interplay and exchange between and amongst blogs, not to run an ad for someone else's blog.
Feb 25, '05
It seems obvious to me that, now that "Jeff Gannon" isn't available any more, that she's become the official White House Top and is merely dressing the part.
I'm just waiting for Dubya or Rove or whoever the bottom is to start dressing the part as well. ;)
Feb 25, '05
course, men in power almost always wear the same clothing: suit and tie, or a sweater to be casual. Remove the sweater if it's too hot. If powerful men started wearing "fashion," it would be talked about.
Rice's appearance is her least troublesome aspect. But then, she does come off looking quite weird. Shrub's weirdness is in his facial expressions. And hey, how about Rummy? There's a fellow on the edge. He'd look scary in sweats.
Feb 25, '05
Fair enough, regarding Movable Type's definition of trackbacks. In practice, however, it lets my readers in on your opinion of some subject without reciprocity regarding your readers.
I did use the word 'customary.' Perhaps the phrase 'common courtesy' would have been more clear.
My apologies.
5:29 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
It's a lot better than Condi's usual wardrobe. Needs fishnets and a leather mask, though.
You forgot the riding crop. ;-)
I agree that it's creepy.
And yes, women have always been and will always be noticed for what they wear... well, women, Rupaul and Regis Philbin. Jackie O was a trend-setter. Nancy Reagan owned the color red for eight years. First Ladies' inaugural ballgowns are on display at the Smithsonian where, as far as I know, nobody's innaugural tuxedo is. It's simply because we are not confined to a three-piece suit. What constitutes "professional" for women varies greatly from what constitutes "professional" for men. What we wear is an extension of our personality (or it should be) and we can get away with it. A lot of women - professonal and otherwise - pride themselves on their sense of style. Others it's not so important - but either way, if a woman is in a public position (be she an actress or Secretary of State), eventually someone will talk about what she is wearing.
As for the sudden change in attire - somebody somewhere decided that she had lost her feminity (if she ever had any at all) and suggested she reclaim it. That's my best guess. There's some sort of attempt at an image-change going on. But I don't know that this was the best direction.
Oh, and I think the boots would look better on W.
Feb 25, '05
I would expect a trackback to actually link to my post.
Feb 25, '05
Gotta call a spade a spade here. Rice herself, and not just her slutty new wardrobe, is creepy. In fact, she's a spiritually diseased and demented liar who, along with most every other American bureaucrat and politician responsible for United States foreign policy and national defense over the past 15 years, oughta taste hellfire for her crimes against humanity.
Feb 25, '05
1968 Black is Beautiful does crimean Transylvania. Ja wohl.
It's Rose is Rose's alter ego. A comics rendition that microcosms an American alter ego, which is a first cousin (they might say nephew) derived of that German/British, Kaiser/Queen thing, all Victorian/Marquis de Sade (or is it Mason) interbred ... wait for it ... a bit too often. Vampire vamping.
Vhaatever. Accessorize: leather mask - definitely; fishnet - yeah, in a gold or turquoise, gorgeous; riding crop - is difficult, something silver and limp, maybe, asp-flicking instead of a bullsnake -- depending on how she carried it, on a wide waistbelt, yes; epaulet-tucked, no. But I'm thinking like a syringe or flask in the fishnet with a leather thigh garter. A diamond-set choker and a pair of flair-cuff brushed-chrome bracelets all beneath the greatcoat and, hey, here's somebody you can carve up the world over vodka and caviar with. It's the Eva Brain look, leibchien. Totally gauche. Fashion of the Furies. Which was never fashion.
Dominatrix diplomacy: Diplomatrix!
Why are we talking about this? She's a liar and complicitous in war crimes and mass murder. Ja wohl. Bite the cyanide, Condi, bite the cyanide -- it's in the pocket.
<h1></h1>10:40 p.m.
Feb 25, '05
One last post on the trackback thing... Yes, yes, of course it can be used to let someone know there's a reference. That's one purpose. But the second purpose is to point folks on another site to another aspect of the conversation on this site.
In this case, there were dozens of righties posting "Condi's Hot!" items on their blogs, and I thought we'd add another view to the mix. (Not that all the trackbacks were on pro-dominatrix blogs.)
And no, Bix, it's not referrer spam -- that's junk that's unrelated; the usual stuff of which spam is made of. (I won't name the topics, because I don't want that traffic. But you know of what I speak.)
Feb 26, '05
Kari:
The picture accompanying your "creepy" commentary appears to be doctored.
I prefer the title picture and conclusion from the Washington Post article you linked.
The title was: "Condoleezza Rice's Commanding Clothes"
In the 2/25/05 article on page C01, staff writer Robin Givhan concluded with: 'Rice's appearance at Wiesbaden -- a military base with all of its attendant images of machismo, strength and power -- was striking because she walked out draped in a banner of authority, power and toughness. She was not hiding behind matronliness, androgyny or the stereotype of the steel magnolia. Rice brought her full self to the world stage -- and that included her sexuality. It was not overt or inappropriate. If it was distracting, it is only because it is so rare.'
To this independent observer, the creepiness is in the obvious attempt to misrepresent the facts.
Feb 26, '05
Come on, dudes. You all need to chill out on Condi.
Hot is Hot. It may be the one thing we can agree with the "right" on!
End of analysis.
Feb 26, '05
Bite the cyanide, Condi, bite the cyanide
I love that!
1:13 p.m.
Feb 26, '05
Gus, let's not go throwing accusations. Here's the original photo from Reuters. How is the photo above doctored?
Feb 26, '05
need a video of her put to the star wars theme.
Dun, dun, dun DUN da da duun.
Feb 26, '05
Kari:
The original photo leaves a different impression than the cropped version. The conclusion drawn by the Washington Post reporter is much different than the Vaderesque impression you tried to convey.
The Secretary of State, being an Oakland Raider fan, may be partial to black. While boots are fitting for Wiesbaden in Winter. Leaving her fair game for a non-fan of hers to modify Al Davis's "Just win baby!" mantra to "Just spin baby!"
5:35 p.m.
Feb 26, '05
Come on, dudes. You all need to chill out on Condi.
Hot is Hot.
I'm sure I'm not alone in expressing the following sentiment: Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww. She may be a lot of things, but hot ain't one of 'em. I realize beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but... I just don't see it. Or maybe the fact that she's evil has clouded my perception of her. Yeah, maybe that's it.
6:00 p.m.
Feb 26, '05
OK, Gus, if you say so. On the original photo, I'm seeing an American flag, a photog, and more troops (and, maybe, a young girl in blue in the crowd?)
Anyway, I was just talking about her weird clothes. Seriously, look at Darth Vader. Same outfit, except she's got no helmet, no light saber, and she's showing a little thigh.
Feb 27, '05
Fräulein Rice greets the masses. Did she sprirtually tap into something nasty over in Germany? Damn right this is creepy. The header should be "They're Back"
Feb 28, '05
I can't believe Todd Birch called this outfit "slutty."
Again, I don't like Ms. Rice and find her politics appalling. But I also find referring to her as "slutty" appalling.
Look at the picture again. At most, she is showing four inches of her leg. And ZERO of her upper body. How, pray tell, is this slutty?
That kind of remark just kills me. You want to dis the outfit, fine, but don't talk about it as if she were some kind of streetwalker. The woman wore kneeboots . . . not a halter top and a mini skirt! Get a grip and try slandering her for a legitimate reason.
I can't believe I'm defending this woman, but really, you forced me into it.
Feb 28, '05
Georgia-
Thats what happens when you are blinded by the progressive hate machine...
Even Dean is calling Repubs "evil" now. I guess he has stepped into the realm of Michael Savage.
Feb 28, '05
georgia,
I’m certainly sorry if I left the impression that I believe the U.S. Secretary of State is on a comparable ethical plane with "some kind of streetwalker."
On the contrary, I believe prostitution is a much more honorable profession than whatever functions Dr. Rice is likely to perform for the Bush administration over the next four years.
My apologies to any Working Girls I might have offended.
Mar 1, '05
gee, thanks Todd.
I guess I was just hoping that we could criticize a woman and not bring up the idea of her being a whore, but apparently no such luck.